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iPhone 5s Gets New Software Update 13 Years After Launch

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Re: iPhone 5s Gets New Software Update 13 Years After Launch

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Post by thebruce87m »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #10
mrandish wrote: post #7

I'm not a fan of Apple's walled garden mindset and resistance to inter-operating with other platforms, but this degree of legacy support is a case of Apple doing a good thing and deserves praise. Note: I'm not saying that Google/MSFT et al are much better than Apple, but they're not quite as bad.

I know folks that have 18-month-old flagship Android phones, that can’t get the latest Android releases. When they ask me what Android phones to get, I always say a Pixel, because they will at least get the latest OS support in a timely fashion. They are also excellent phones.

> I always say a Pixel

Given the emergency call issue that has plagued the series for years and are seemingly still unresolved I would think twice about this.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37714579

Re: iPhone 5s Gets New Software Update 13 Years After Launch

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Post by pjmlp »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #10
mrandish wrote: post #7

I'm not a fan of Apple's walled garden mindset and resistance to inter-operating with other platforms, but this degree of legacy support is a case of Apple doing a good thing and deserves praise. Note: I'm not saying that Google/MSFT et al are much better than Apple, but they're not quite as bad.

I know folks that have 18-month-old flagship Android phones, that can’t get the latest Android releases. When they ask me what Android phones to get, I always say a Pixel, because they will at least get the latest OS support in a timely fashion. They are also excellent phones.

I, like most people I know, buy Android devices around the 300 euro limit, use them until they break for whatever reason, which is measured in years.

The only apps that get installed nowadays are the ones that must be for a specific service, or gaming.

Many people even turn updates off due to the way companies get creative changing the application on every update.

In the old days before the iOS/Android duopoly there were no updates at all, and the few times they happened to be supported, it required the developer SDK to update the firmware.

Outside communities like HN, regular people hardly care about updates.

Re: iPhone 5s Gets New Software Update 13 Years After Launch

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Post by eviks »

mrandish wrote: post #7

I'm not a fan of Apple's walled garden mindset and resistance to inter-operating with other platforms, but this degree of legacy support is a case of Apple doing a good thing and deserves praise. Note: I'm not saying that Google/MSFT et al are much better than Apple, but they're not quite as bad.

It doesn't deserve praise because the "degree" is very low, and it's undercut by all the other measures like "forcing" min OS version updates, meaning that your phone won't be able to use apps even when OS is updated.

Re: iPhone 5s Gets New Software Update 13 Years After Launch

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Post by stuaxo »

pjmlp wrote: post #42
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know folks that have 18-month-old flagship Android phones, that can’t get the latest Android releases. When they ask me what Android phones to get, I always say a Pixel, because they will at least get the latest OS support in a timely fashion. They are also excellent phones.

I, like most people I know, buy Android devices around the 300 euro limit, use them until they break for whatever reason, which is measured in years. The only apps that get installed nowadays are the ones that must be for a specific service, or gaming. Many people even turn updates off due to the way companies get creative changing the application on every update. In the old days before the iOS/Android duopoly there…

Current one was 150 quid off Ebay, I've also used backmarket.

Last time I had a "flagship" phone it got stolen out my hand.

The screen was also expensive to replace.

If I drop this its no big deal (the back is plastic anyway).

It also comes in a fun colour so its not just another black rectangle.

I'll replace it with the Jolla phone when that arrives.

Re: iPhone 5s Gets New Software Update 13 Years After Launch

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Post by bpye »

snovymgodym wrote: post #27
augusteo wrote: post #8

tokyobreakfast is right that this is just a certificate fix, not a real software update. But it's still notable. Lots of old devices become paperweights because of expired certs or backend shutdowns. The fact that Apple even bothered to push this to a 13-year-old device is unusual. Most companies wouldn't.

Kind of how Sony pushes a bluetooth DRM update to PS3s every year still.

I think you mean blu-ray?

Re: iPhone 5s Gets New Software Update 13 Years After Launch

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

accrual wrote: post #31

Anyone using the original iPhone SE or the second SE? I wonder how those are fairing on their final update(s).

I've got an iPhone 7 I use as a secondary phone. It had a new battery about four years ago. It's still going strong.

Re: iPhone 5s Gets New Software Update 13 Years After Launch

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Post by walthamstow »

com2kid wrote: post #26
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know folks that have 18-month-old flagship Android phones, that can’t get the latest Android releases. When they ask me what Android phones to get, I always say a Pixel, because they will at least get the latest OS support in a timely fashion. They are also excellent phones.

I've never had a pixel phone survive through its support period. The hardware always dies first. Tbf some pixel models have proven reliable, my mom's pixel 4 lasted long enough to be out of support and then it got owned and her bank accounts got taken over. The downside of reliable HW I guess.

Counterpoint: my Pixel 3 and 5 are both still running fine. The 3 (2018) actually gets better battery life than the 5.

Re: iPhone 5s Gets New Software Update 13 Years After Launch

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Post by youngtaff »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #10
mrandish wrote: post #7

I'm not a fan of Apple's walled garden mindset and resistance to inter-operating with other platforms, but this degree of legacy support is a case of Apple doing a good thing and deserves praise. Note: I'm not saying that Google/MSFT et al are much better than Apple, but they're not quite as bad.

I know folks that have 18-month-old flagship Android phones, that can’t get the latest Android releases. When they ask me what Android phones to get, I always say a Pixel, because they will at least get the latest OS support in a timely fashion. They are also excellent phones.

Google have burnt me twice by abandoning phones… first was Nexus 4, next was Pixel 4a

Both were abandoned within two years of me buying… never buying a phone from Google again

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