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Show HN posts p/month more than doubled in the last year

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Re: Show HN posts p/month more than doubled in the last year

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One of the reasons is that there are a lot of adverts masquerading as Show HN.

Some subreddits became polluted the same way. Pretty annoying.

There's a subreddit for software people with adhd and it's terrible, every second post is about a New and Exciting Tool to manage adhd. Most of them are vibe coded, all of them come from randos I wouldn't trust with what I had for breakfast, let alone a whole life management system.

I check in every few weeks and I don't understand how anyone can use that subreddit more frequently.

Re: Show HN posts p/month more than doubled in the last year

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I suspect that this will drive the folks who insist LLM productivity gains are the real hallucinations truly bonkers.

No, the fact that Show HN is spammed with LLM-generated garbage is what drives me bonkers. The Show HNs are in fact living proof of how illusory LLM productivity gains are, because we are overwhelmed with trivial proof-of-concepts that have no merit, not even the merit of a human having put effort into creating something neat, rather than actually interesting software anybody would try or discuss.

Counterpoint: You won't admit anything generated with LLMs is good? I don't see any evidence of your fairness in your comment, so why should I consider you any differently than the angry dude at the bar complaining over his drinks about how things were in his day?

Re: Show HN posts p/month more than doubled in the last year

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I suspect that this will drive the folks who insist LLM productivity gains are the real hallucinations truly bonkers.

/r/selfhosted also got tons of new submissions, all unmaintainable AI slop. Now that they are only allowed on Fridays, it calmed down again. But I guess folks who insist on AI superiority think that’s a productivity gain.

The people spamming built bad stuff because they don't know any better. They would have built zero software without AI, so to the extent that anyone built anything working at all, it's basically an infinite productivity increase for those people.

Re: Show HN posts p/month more than doubled in the last year

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note that self-reporting productivity gains is a completely unreliable and unscientific metric. One study[1], small in scope but a noteworthy data point, found that over the course of the study that LLMs reduced productivity by ~20% but even after the fact the participants felt that on average their productivity had increased by ~20%. This study is surely not the end-all be-all and you could find ways to criticise it…

If you look at the survey it's not only about productivity it's also about usage, model choice etc. But I agree with you self reported productivity gains is to be taken with a grain of salt. But then what else would you propose? The goal is to not only rely on benchmarks for model performance but develop some kind of TIOBE Index for LLMs.

The ever-present rebuttal to all LLM failure anecdotes: you're using the wrong model, you're prompting it wrong, etc. All failures are always the user's fault. It couldn't possibly be that the tool is bad.

Re: Show HN posts p/month more than doubled in the last year

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, the fact that Show HN is spammed with LLM-generated garbage is what drives me bonkers. The Show HNs are in fact living proof of how illusory LLM productivity gains are, because we are overwhelmed with trivial proof-of-concepts that have no merit, not even the merit of a human having put effort into creating something neat, rather than actually interesting software anybody would try or discuss.

Counterpoint: You won't admit anything generated with LLMs is good? I don't see any evidence of your fairness in your comment, so why should I consider you any differently than the angry dude at the bar complaining over his drinks about how things were in his day?

> You won't admit anything generated with LLMs is good?

Nowhere in my comment did I say this, so this is quite a non-sequitur you've based the following personal attack upon. Regardless of whether it's possible to use LLMs to generate good things, the vast majority of things generated with them are not good, and if the good things exist, they are being drowned out in a sea of spam, increasingly difficult to discover along with the good human-generated content.

I have to say, I would characterise both your comment and the original comment I replied to as being considerably more "unfair" than mine. The first comment was clearly written in such a way to get a rise out of people. Your reply is directly insinuating that I'm out-of-touch and ranting at clouds.

Re: Show HN posts p/month more than doubled in the last year

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some subreddits became polluted the same way. Pretty annoying.

There's a subreddit for software people with adhd and it's terrible, every second post is about a New and Exciting Tool to manage adhd. Most of them are vibe coded, all of them come from randos I wouldn't trust with what I had for breakfast, let alone a whole life management system. I check in every few weeks and I don't understand how anyone can use that subreddit more frequently.

that's eventually what drove me away from adhd_programmers as well, tho I'm sorry they even still allow AI apps anymore cuz it was bad before llms blew up

Re: Show HN posts p/month more than doubled in the last year

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some subreddits became polluted the same way. Pretty annoying.

There's a subreddit for software people with adhd and it's terrible, every second post is about a New and Exciting Tool to manage adhd. Most of them are vibe coded, all of them come from randos I wouldn't trust with what I had for breakfast, let alone a whole life management system. I check in every few weeks and I don't understand how anyone can use that subreddit more frequently.

Yea, pretty much. I actually always thought that these were some bots.

Re: Show HN posts p/month more than doubled in the last year

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you look at the survey it's not only about productivity it's also about usage, model choice etc. But I agree with you self reported productivity gains is to be taken with a grain of salt. But then what else would you propose? The goal is to not only rely on benchmarks for model performance but develop some kind of TIOBE Index for LLMs.

The ever-present rebuttal to all LLM failure anecdotes: you're using the wrong model, you're prompting it wrong, etc. All failures are always the user's fault. It couldn't possibly be that the tool is bad.

Of course, your logic could also be equally allied to the opposite position.

Quite a few of us are tired of being told that we're imagining doing what used to take weeks multiple times in an evening.

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