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It would be the largest welfare state in the union.

Welfare perhaps. State, almost certainly not. If this did come to pass, I wonder if the inhabitants would be US citizens or non-citizen nationals, like the population of American Samoa.

I don't think any of the Trump crowd thought as far as these legal ramifications. Send in the Little Green Men, annex, and figure things out as they happen.

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> Are Greenlanders paid by Denmark to live there in order to keep some sort of minimum population? Where were you educated?

It's a fair question. Greenland appears to be a very harsh place to live. Younger generations may not want to deal with that and go live in Europe.

Does the American government pay people to post and push their narratives on the internet?

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It would be the largest welfare state in the union.

> The US Geological Survey estimates that onshore northeast Greenland (including ice-covered areas) contains around 31 billion barrels of oil-equivalent in hydrocarbons https://theconversation.com/greenland-is-rich-in-natural-res...

The US doesn't need oil, it's the world's largest producer and has enormous estimated recoverable oil reserves comparable to Venezuela or Russia.

Greenland is either about Trump intentionally causing chaos with NATO for the benefit of Russia (depending on your politics), or it's the Pentagon & Co. looking to lock down strategic territory for the near future superpower stand-off with China, which will be a global conflict (and may involve China and Russia on one side). Controlling Greenland and Alaska would provide the US with enormous Arctic Ocean positioning. Now what does that have to do with China you may ask? Trade, transit and military asset positioning. The US is looking to secure what it regards as its hemisphere, while China is about to massively push outward globally with a projection navy. The US has less than ~20 years to lock down its hemisphere (again, what the US believes to be its hemisphere) before China starts showing up with its navy everywhere. There will be constant navy-navy challenges everywhere. China will constantly probe the US points of control, for all the obvious reasons. The US will want to keep China as far away as possible.

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> Are Greenlanders paid by Denmark to live there in order to keep some sort of minimum population? Where were you educated?

It's a fair question. Greenland appears to be a very harsh place to live. Younger generations may not want to deal with that and go live in Europe.

Your question is not an unreasonable one. One fifth of all Greenlanders live in Denmark.

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>Greenland is unbelievably, stupendously critical to US security. I think the US may just remain secure without owning Greenland. I mean it's done ok so far.

Shrinking of the ice caps is opening up a whole new theatre for trade, natural resource extraction, and more importantly conflict.

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>Greenland is unbelievably, stupendously critical to US security. I think the US may just remain secure without owning Greenland. I mean it's done ok so far.

How about if China buys Greenland or otherwise acquires a massive port on Greenland. Maybe China builds one of the world's largest military bases on Greenland with a century deal.

China is going to end up being every bit as powerful as the US ever was, both economically and militarily. Nothing will be off the table in what's coming. Russia has never had a true global projection navy, China will have a navy that is plausibly going to be both larger and more powerful than the US navy with full global reach. That global reach will include the entire North and South American region.

If you're the US you look to lock down Greenland and Panama, for starters.

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