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The Walls Are Closing in on Tesla

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Re: The Walls Are Closing in on Tesla

#41
post #10

Closing in? Try all but irrelevant outside the US. It's not going to be a make you give much thought when considering an EV purchase. Vastly different situation five years ago.

It's literally the best selling car in Norway with a over 50% increase in sales YoY.

The rest of the European market is a "bloodbath".

https://electrek.co/2026/01/06/tesla-full-2025-data-europe-t... https://www.reuters.com/business/tesla-registrations-slump-f...

Re: The Walls Are Closing in on Tesla

#42
post #5

I used to really like and admire Musk. You could say I was a fanboy. I am still asking myself what the fuck happened? Was he faking his true character all this time and managed to dupe me? Did he suffer some brain damage which changed him this drastically? Was it too much social media, was it covid-related, was he poisoned? Did too much money and power get to him? I would seriously like to know. By know, knowing abou…

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somebody should look into who owns the @elonmusk account that originates these stories...

Re: The Walls Are Closing in on Tesla

#43
post #10

Closing in? Try all but irrelevant outside the US. It's not going to be a make you give much thought when considering an EV purchase. Vastly different situation five years ago.

It's literally the best selling car in Norway with a over 50% increase in sales YoY.

Norway is an anomaly.

Examples for Europe, 2025 vs. 2024:

  Sweden: -68%
  Belgium: -53%
  Germany: -48%
  France: -37%
  Switzerland: -28%
  Portugal: -22%
  Italy: -18%
Edit: I fail list formatting

Re: The Walls Are Closing in on Tesla

#44
post #10

Closing in? Try all but irrelevant outside the US. It's not going to be a make you give much thought when considering an EV purchase. Vastly different situation five years ago.

It's literally the best selling car in Norway with a over 50% increase in sales YoY.

Norway representing a wopping 1% of EU car sales. [1]

[1] https://www.best-selling-cars.com/europe/2024-full-year-euro...

Re: The Walls Are Closing in on Tesla

#45
post #10

Closing in? Try all but irrelevant outside the US. It's not going to be a make you give much thought when considering an EV purchase. Vastly different situation five years ago.

It's literally the best selling car in Norway with a over 50% increase in sales YoY.

Is this important market?

Norway is just 5-6 million population. Does being number 1 in Norway even mean anything?

UK is near 70million. Germany 80million. What about the stats for those? How many Teslas were sold as percentage in UK?

Re: The Walls Are Closing in on Tesla

#46
post #5

I used to really like and admire Musk. You could say I was a fanboy. I am still asking myself what the fuck happened? Was he faking his true character all this time and managed to dupe me? Did he suffer some brain damage which changed him this drastically? Was it too much social media, was it covid-related, was he poisoned? Did too much money and power get to him? I would seriously like to know. By know, knowing abou…

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The "you're a sheep" rhetoric. Great!

Pre-2018 he had already made some substantial lies, (cf. https://elonmusk.today/)

Re: The Walls Are Closing in on Tesla

#47
post #27
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not a very good comparison as Tesla has far fewer models than other carmakers.

The number of models doesn’t seem that relevant? If anything it would make Tesla’s numbers all the more impressive being a niche market EV.

Of course its relevant as Tesla is valued to much more than the other makers despite selling in total fewer cars.

Tesla is indeed a niche maker, but their valuation does not reflect that fact.

Re: The Walls Are Closing in on Tesla

#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's literally the best selling car in Norway with a over 50% increase in sales YoY.

Is this important market? Norway is just 5-6 million population. Does being number 1 in Norway even mean anything? UK is near 70million. Germany 80million. What about the stats for those? How many Teslas were sold as percentage in UK?

IIRC Norway is one of the few markets where EV growth is positive rather than negative, due to their abundant electric gen and other factors

Re: The Walls Are Closing in on Tesla

#49
post #33
post #5

I used to really like and admire Musk. You could say I was a fanboy. I am still asking myself what the fuck happened? Was he faking his true character all this time and managed to dupe me? Did he suffer some brain damage which changed him this drastically? Was it too much social media, was it covid-related, was he poisoned? Did too much money and power get to him? I would seriously like to know. By know, knowing abou…

I find it odd to completely disavow someone because you don’t agree 100% with their politics. I mean Werner Von Braun was a Nazi party member and knowingly used slave labor. Doesn’t make his rocketry advancements any less impressive. Or Charles Darwin’s views of superior races. Or Gandhi’s gray area views of pedophilia. I mean if you’re going to discounted every person with a view you find distasteful your list of pe…

>I find it odd to completely disavow someone because you don’t agree 100% with their politics.

"politics":

https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/usaid-shutdown-has-led-to-hund...

https://www.cgdev.org/blog/update-lives-lost-usaid-cuts

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6...

Re: The Walls Are Closing in on Tesla

#50
post #33
post #5

I used to really like and admire Musk. You could say I was a fanboy. I am still asking myself what the fuck happened? Was he faking his true character all this time and managed to dupe me? Did he suffer some brain damage which changed him this drastically? Was it too much social media, was it covid-related, was he poisoned? Did too much money and power get to him? I would seriously like to know. By know, knowing abou…

I find it odd to completely disavow someone because you don’t agree 100% with their politics. I mean Werner Von Braun was a Nazi party member and knowingly used slave labor. Doesn’t make his rocketry advancements any less impressive. Or Charles Darwin’s views of superior races. Or Gandhi’s gray area views of pedophilia. I mean if you’re going to discounted every person with a view you find distasteful your list of pe…

This is the nuanced view. In todays polarized world, it is sadly completely unacceptable. At least there are two of us now! ;)
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