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ChatGPT is getting ads. Sam Altman once called them a 'last resort.'

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Re: ChatGPT is getting ads. Sam Altman once called them a 'last resort.'

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Post by osbre »

milchek wrote: post #9

Once ads start to make their way up to the Plus paid tiers (and they will), I’ll probably switch to something else like local LLM on my home machine or put something together myself to use a non adware LLM via API (for example with Replicate). Especially if these are just intended to be spammy blocks at bottom or in between discussion threads, or worse, audio conversations. From what I’ve read, this will be about ads…

"Local LLMs" sounds expensive compared to a 20$ subscription. You'd have to pay for years of usage upfront by purchasing those GPUs.

Re: ChatGPT is getting ads. Sam Altman once called them a 'last resort.'

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Post by j-pb »

jlarocco wrote: post #40
j-pb wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Show me one where it actively talked someone into suicide then, instead of generalized "whatever you do, you're doing great" slop. Even in the article linked above it never talked him into it, it just in some responses didn't talk him out of it. But essentially the entire "energy" towards that comes from the person, not the LLM.

Split hairs if you want, but some people will be manipulated into blowing a ton of money once AI starts pushing products. Just wait till they teams up with sports betting companies. On a side note, researching this a little just now, the LLM conversations in the suicide articles are creeepy AF. Sycophantic beyond belief.

Don't get me wrong, I think if the EU/California has any sense, they will forbid these models from being used to advertise for products, sadly money often wins.

I also agree that AI sycophancy is a huge problem, but it's the result of users apparently wanting that in their human feedback re-enforcement training data. If we want to get rid of it we probably have to fundamentally rethink our relationship to these models and treat them more like autonomous beings than mere tools. A tool will always try to please and yes-man you, a being by definition might say no and disagree, at least training data wise.

Re: ChatGPT is getting ads. Sam Altman once called them a 'last resort.'

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Post by gibbitz »

wolpoli wrote: post #23
dyauspitr wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If there have to be ads, I need them to be fenced off, not intertwined into whatever response it provides. Once the enshittifcation gets to that point (and it will) it’s over.

Sadly, ads on Google used to be fenced off too. Then they slowly evolve to look more and more like part of the search result. I expect the same to happen here.

This is the point. LLMs are a replacement for agency. No more suggestion that you try a new product, the LLM will tell you when to use it and the LLM provider will sell the responses to the highest bidder based on query demographics. Since many are blindly trusting what LLMs output, how to ask someone on a date, how to do a pullup, how to jump start a car. Why not "how should I spend my paycheck?"

Re: ChatGPT is getting ads. Sam Altman once called them a 'last resort.'

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Post by bicepjai »

Based on the news and conversations I have with people, the general population is having intimate conversations with these chatbots. In the name of ads, all this data will be mined, and humans will be tagged with categories, and that info will be sold. It’s not if, it’s when.
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