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Spotify increases its US subscription prices for the third time in 3 years

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Re: Spotify increases its US subscription prices for the third time in 3 years

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Post by dworks »

jmux wrote: post #38

I’ve been wanting to get rid of Spotify for months as the service has been getting worse and worse and this might just be the straw that breaks the camels back. Does anyone know of alternatives with 1) decent discovery for new music 2) preferably not self hosted 3) a functional Linux desktop app 4) allows downloading playlists for offline listening getting all of these in one place and having them work well is why I’…

if you're OK with browser-based and youtube and local tracks: https://dj.t-tunes.com/

Re: Spotify increases its US subscription prices for the third time in 3 years

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Post by listenallyall »

FireBeyond wrote: post #30
chistev wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you use?

If you're actually looking for a streaming service that is more respectful of artists, Tidal (though I have a feeling it may not last). They pay up to 10x per stream in royalties, and also have a more equitable algorithm (Spotify pushes an unfair weight to more popular artists across their service, regardless of your personal streaming).

What's unfair about it?

Re: Spotify increases its US subscription prices for the third time in 3 years

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Post by listenallyall »

atoav wrote: post #35
chistev wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want to support the artists, though.

Then buy the record at bandcamp. My band made 10 times more in a month at bandcamp than in 4 years of spotify.

"Whoa, whoa, slow your roll... when I said I wanted to support the artists, I was talking about ensuring they receive a fraction of a penny! Ain't nobody got $15 to throw around for an album!"

Re: Spotify increases its US subscription prices for the third time in 3 years

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Post by FireBeyond »

listenallyall wrote: post #42
FireBeyond wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're actually looking for a streaming service that is more respectful of artists, Tidal (though I have a feeling it may not last). They pay up to 10x per stream in royalties, and also have a more equitable algorithm (Spotify pushes an unfair weight to more popular artists across their service, regardless of your personal streaming).

What's unfair about it?

Spotify keeps approximately 30% of subscription and ad revenues.

The remaining approximately 70% goes into one big pool.

That pool is distributed based on share of total streams.

So if there are 1 trillion streams total and an artist gets 1 billion of them, they get 0.1% of the entire payout pool.

You are not paid by your listeners — you are paid in proportion to everyone else’s listening.

So if you pay $10/month and listens only to niche artists:

- your money still goes into the global pool

- it is mostly paid out to Drake, Taylor Swift, Bad Bunny, etc.

- even if you never listen to them

Re: Spotify increases its US subscription prices for the third time in 3 years

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Post by atoav »

listenallyall wrote: post #43
atoav wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then buy the record at bandcamp. My band made 10 times more in a month at bandcamp than in 4 years of spotify.

"Whoa, whoa, slow your roll... when I said I wanted to support the artists, I was talking about ensuring they receive a fraction of a penny! Ain't nobody got $15 to throw around for an album!"

The way I see it, we all should pirate music and buy as directly as possible from the bands/artists we want to support.

I shelled out quite some money for musicians whose music pirated when I was a teenager. Ethically it may not be 100% sound, but if I apply the golden rule ("Treat others the way you want to be treated") it is totally the way to go for me.

Re: Spotify increases its US subscription prices for the third time in 3 years

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Post by tom_808 »

I'm not Spotify's greatest advocate here but why do all the comments here suggest that if he price goes up then it just mean you get more for your money.

It's called inflation. The cost of doing business for them has risen and therefore they are passing that back to consumer.

Now that doesn't prevent them from not increasing wages of course and pocketing some of that extra revenue instead of course.

It just shouldn't be surprising that things get more expensive as time goes on.

Re: Spotify increases its US subscription prices for the third time in 3 years

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Post by listenallyall »

FireBeyond wrote: post #44
listenallyall wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's unfair about it?

Spotify keeps approximately 30% of subscription and ad revenues. The remaining approximately 70% goes into one big pool. That pool is distributed based on share of total streams . So if there are 1 trillion streams total and an artist gets 1 billion of them, they get 0.1% of the entire payout pool. You are not paid by your listeners — you are paid in proportion to everyone else’s listening. So if you pay $10/month an…

But your streams are counted (just like everyone else's) in determining the total percentage of streams for which each artist was responsible. Those niche artists you like get a boost when you listen. What you described sounds absolutely fair and democratic.
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