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Anyone who spends five minutes thinking about the consequences of deliberately leaving your house will conclude that the only safe, sane thing to do is stay the fuck inside.

Having it safe to go outside is the very point of a society. Outside of this safety Bubble there's a strong tendency for conflict and war. Only after two cruel world wars and a prolonged cold war, the western world got their shit together and decided 'enough of that'. And even that doesn't seem to hold much longer, so it seems we will only have managed to live peaceful among each other without an immediate conflict w…

We're like a paranoid child terrified that anyone that enters our room is going to steal our Lego, so we must be left alone!

Nobody wants our Lego.

Re: SETI Home Flags 100 Signals After Sorting 12B Others

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folding@home is still going I think? seti@home was definetly a cool screensaver, though.[0] [0]: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Eric-Korpela/publicatio...

Folding is still going strong, as is: https://worldcommunitygrid.org/

Wasn't protein folding solved by our AI overlords once? Demis Hassabis? Alpha Fold?

Re: SETI Home Flags 100 Signals After Sorting 12B Others

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I've pretty much given up on traditional radio SETI ever finding anything, as its sole focus is on trying to find terrawatt/mega scale, repeating, intentional alien communication beacons, and nothing else. As I don't believe aliens would make such things, I don't believe traditional SETI will ever find anything. Out telescopes aren't sensitive enough to detect the power levels of comm signals that aliens would use in…

On the other hand, I hold the slightly fringe theory that suns are sentient beings, and by just watching the stars, we may see them communicate.

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I've pretty much given up on traditional radio SETI ever finding anything, as its sole focus is on trying to find terrawatt/mega scale, repeating, intentional alien communication beacons, and nothing else. As I don't believe aliens would make such things, I don't believe traditional SETI will ever find anything. Out telescopes aren't sensitive enough to detect the power levels of comm signals that aliens would use in…

On the other hand, I hold the slightly fringe theory that suns are sentient beings, and by just watching the stars, we may see them communicate.

“Slightly fringe”

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On the other hand, I hold the slightly fringe theory that suns are sentient beings, and by just watching the stars, we may see them communicate.

“Slightly fringe”

Heh

Arthur C Clarke once suggested that some supernova could be industrial accidents. A curiously romantic idea, and one I rather like!

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Folding is still going strong, as is: https://worldcommunitygrid.org/

Wasn't protein folding solved by our AI overlords once? Demis Hassabis? Alpha Fold?

Not solved at all. Certainly AF is very useful but what it outputs is a fundamentally a prediction with important limitations. There’s plenty of utility in physical modeling.

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No, AI are terrible at finding these types of patterns. You could hypothetically use AI to write algorithms to find the patterns, but people have already spent a long time super-tuning them. AIs can't even (at least I keep checking) solve Sudokus as well as my mother -- they aren't good with piles of numbers and complex patterns.

AI has been used in astrophysics for a long time, now. AI is more than genAI of the past 3-4 years... Classification tasks are handled by AI now because it's the only thing that gives you some accuracy at scale.

It depends on what you mean by AI. I bet if the two of you used clearer terms, you’d both be right.

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Contact, recommended movie to watch! (For me much better than Interstellar)

Three Body Problem as well for detecting signal. Pluribus as well

Also “Three Body” is the Chinese version of this, which is more in-depth.
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