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With your history surely the far right wouldn't get that amount of power ever again... right...? Oh... wait....
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Germany's Merz admits nuclear exit was strategic mistake
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Re: Germany's Merz admits nuclear exit was strategic mistake
#42renewables will win the long game. batteries are becoming dirt cheap, decentral production wins amidst clusterfucking climate catastrophes. solar and wind already are cheaper than anything else. the markets will adjust, simple as that. any push to prolong the transition simply benefits fossil stakeholders.
Batteries are not actually becoming dirt cheap. And if you do the math of how much you need, even if batteries get cheaper by 50% (and that is unlikely just based on materials cost) its nowhere near enough.
> decentral production wins amidst clusterfucking climate catastrophes
If you do the math you will see Germany could have actually saved money if they had build nuclear in the 2000s.
> solar and wind already are cheaper than anything else
Only if you look at levelized dispatch cost, not if you actually look at is as a system for sustainable reliable power for a whole industrial country.
Re: Germany's Merz admits nuclear exit was strategic mistake
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You mean the Green party was undermined by Russians? The Green party had the goal of de-nuclearization from the beginning, at that time the Soviet Union was still in existence. When the Green party came to power and negotiated the nuclear exit, they did not need any external motivation to do so. The only way I can see this being Russian meddling would be the Green party being infiltrated from Russia from the beginnin…
Not sure why you're blaming the Greens here, they're a second-tier party in Germany and weren't even a part of the governing coalition during Fukushima and the decision to completely exit nuclear.
The Green party and the Social Democrats were the governing coalition that enacted the nuclear exit. Sure, it was completed by the other two big parties after Fukushima, but by that time the exit was already underway in practice.
Re: Germany's Merz admits nuclear exit was strategic mistake
#44It was a mistake, because it makes it harder to build up a nuclear weapons stockpile. Which Germany desperately needs.
Nonsense. Civilian nuclear plants are not needed for nuclear weapons. They are in-fact a terrible way to make nuclear weapons.
Re: Germany's Merz admits nuclear exit was strategic mistake
#45This is a sensationalist piece of not-news.
The CSU/CDU Union party (from which Merz comes) has been, at least in recent historical time, consistently pro-nuclear (at least in terms of their actions). They have consistently voted to lengthen contracts with nuclear providers and consistently advocated for pro-nuclear policies, even when the power companies themselves had long since committed to ceasing all nuclear power production in Germany.
Additionally, the exit out of nuclear power was decided following public outcry after Fukushima -- ie, still squarely within the Merkel government. Merz has been consistently anti-Merkel.
So put into context, the article is saying "the current chancellor of Germany, Merz, thinks leaving nuclear behind was a strategic mistake!" while ignoring "whose party has consistently been pro-nuclear, whose predecessor, who (by the way) Merz doesn't like and frequently and loudly disagrees with, only presided over the decade-long phase-out in response to public outcry following a major nuclear disaster".
IMO this is about as newsworthy as what he ate for breakfast.
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#46Here we go again. No, even fusion won't rescue the climate. Fission certainly could have helped in the transition.
Fission could and is a sustainable way to have green energy forever. No need to transition at all.
Fusion is unlikely to be cheaper anytime soon, even if somebody could build a plant that makes positive energy.
Re: Germany's Merz admits nuclear exit was strategic mistake
#47So, basically his own party, CDU was part of the coalition when nuclear exit was decided. The chancellor from his own party, Merkel decided to accelerate exit after Fukushima, while increasing dependency on Russian gas and blocking construction of renewables in CDU/CSU governed states. And now it is the previous government that failed the energy transition. Funnily enough, both this and previous governments declared…
I agree on the problem of the mainstream having trouble to fix the system that feeds their corruption. I just fear that electing proven traitors such as AfD (partially financed by Russia and China, supported by Russian bots, now bootlicking the US admin) and BSW (directly controlled from Moscow) will only make a tough situation worse.
I have given them as examples, both having support from voters. There’s unfortunately no real alternative to mainstream parties at the moment from political point of view. Nobody really cares about cost of living and housing crisis, overcoming healthcare special interest group lobbies etc.
Re: Germany's Merz admits nuclear exit was strategic mistake
#48renewables will win the long game. batteries are becoming dirt cheap, decentral production wins amidst clusterfucking climate catastrophes. solar and wind already are cheaper than anything else. the markets will adjust, simple as that. any push to prolong the transition simply benefits fossil stakeholders.
I guess you're right. It's a pity that Elon Musk was incapable of aligning with the German Green movement. So many good things (e.g. large batteries on the German grid to buffer wind and sun) could have come out of that.
The Green party actually helped create the right circumstances to build the German Tesla factory quite fast. He was not exactly grateful later on, supporting their political opponents :-D But I guess their extreme wokeism did not help either.
Re: Germany's Merz admits nuclear exit was strategic mistake
#49When you go to the German Wikipedia page about the Fukushima incident you can learn about the misleading reporting in Germany, even in the public broadcasting like ARD or renowned newspapers like Süddeutsche Zeitung (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuklearkatastrophe_von_Fukushi...). Many articles were published that claimed 18.000 casualties from the nuclear disaster while in reality it was the Tsunami.
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I agree on the problem of the mainstream having trouble to fix the system that feeds their corruption. I just fear that electing proven traitors such as AfD (partially financed by Russia and China, supported by Russian bots, now bootlicking the US admin) and BSW (directly controlled from Moscow) will only make a tough situation worse.
I have given them as examples, both having support from voters. There’s unfortunately no real alternative to mainstream parties at the moment from political point of view. Nobody really cares about cost of living and housing crisis, overcoming healthcare special interest group lobbies etc.
So true, unfortunately.
I wonder why that is the case. Maybe the majority of voters (pensionists, state employees, ...) is just not affected by these problems (yet)?