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GOG's new owner can't stand Windows either: 'It's such poor-quality software '

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Re: GOG's new owner can't stand Windows either: 'It's such poor-quality software '

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Post by wltr »

phito wrote: post #21
wltr wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Never had any nostalgia for Windows, and I’ve met plenty of full of themselves developers being ‘nah, Windows is good, you just incompetent’ with their vibes. I could write books about their technical decisions, but I’d just mention none of them knew even slightest bits of Linux. It’s just absurd to me, like man, you do that for work, and the things you were over engineering could be done within one day, if you care…

I can't agree more with you. I know multiple people that keep complaining about windows and Chrome and yet they seem to have no interest in even trying Firefox or Linux. It totally has abusive relationship vibes. It's like they are being captured by convenience, learning something new being too much of an asshle to them. They also like to take jabs at me for using Linux, but then their jaws drop when I transfer a fil…

The man I worked with couldn’t deploy a VPN. He didn’t know how, literally! And he couldn’t just plainly say ‘hey, really, I don’t know how to do that.’ They have a static IP in the office, so you don’t even need any tunnel for it to work. It’s like one day job for me, but I’m not helping as it’s not _my_ job at the moment. Not that they need that VPN in there, it would just be convenient. The man does daily backups manually, with some fancy Windows GUI tool, which he probably pirated. It’s like, come on, an rsync command and a bash script. Really, I can go on and on and on, but those of us who worked with these people just know these stories, and the die-hard Windows weirdos probably won’t even understand what an rsync is.

Re: GOG's new owner can't stand Windows either: 'It's such poor-quality software '

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Post by fgonzag »

dahrkael wrote: post #29

GOG's business relies on Windows going above and beyond to remain retrocompatible with older versions of itself so trashing on it feels like a shitty move

wine is probably better for backwards compatibility than modern windows / microsoft.

Re: GOG's new owner can't stand Windows either: 'It's such poor-quality software '

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Post by legitster »

ricardobayes wrote: post #36
legitster wrote: post #4

So part of me agrees, but part of me also feels like a victim of the boy who cried wolf. People have ragged on Windows going back for as long as I can remember. Only in hindsight did people ever express fondness in public for Windows XP (and maybe a bit for Windows 7). It's hard for me to distinguish how much of the vitriol is legitimate this time from developers, or will nostalgia glasses just haunt Windows forever.…

To be fair, compared to Linux (and to an extent, Mac), Windows has been sluggish, bloated and unreliable for a long time. XP was the last one that felt "solid", aka: fast, reliable and "just works".

> reliable and "just works".

Getting advanced drivers on XP was often an absolute nightmare.

Re: GOG's new owner can't stand Windows either: 'It's such poor-quality software '

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Post by rolph »

TheCycoONE wrote: post #3
rolph wrote: post #2

any word on GOG offering links to upgrade to linux, i think it would speed things up, right now we are almost at the part where the mortally wounded leviathan trashes everything about in its final death throes. it really would be nice for early emancipators to have a comfortable landing, and avoid being subject to collateral damage.

I suspect they would put out a GOG Galaxy that works on Linux well before promoting it on their web site that aggressively.

im thinking a GOG box distro [like a KODI box] so there would be less compromise in order to be an OS, and focus on a more console-like UX.

im thinking it doesnt have to work "on linux" it has to allow gaming on a linux kernal.

Re: GOG's new owner can't stand Windows either: 'It's such poor-quality software '

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Post by deterministic »

I am perfectly happy with Windows 10 and want to throw my work Linux PC out the nearest window almost every day because of Linux package dependency hell.

I work on different application and are pretty much forced to setup a specific Linux VM for each one to not have package dependency problems.

I never had that problem developing on Windows.

Re: GOG's new owner can't stand Windows either: 'It's such poor-quality software '

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Post by Austizzle »

pathartl wrote: post #22
legitster wrote: post #4

So part of me agrees, but part of me also feels like a victim of the boy who cried wolf. People have ragged on Windows going back for as long as I can remember. Only in hindsight did people ever express fondness in public for Windows XP (and maybe a bit for Windows 7). It's hard for me to distinguish how much of the vitriol is legitimate this time from developers, or will nostalgia glasses just haunt Windows forever.…

It's an unpopular opinion, but I genuinely believe that 11 is the best version of Windows yet. I've been using computers for 30 years and you're right, everyone has _always_ complained about Windows. The only reason people have a fondness for XP is because it was pretty much the world's first Windows. It's the OS that was used to connect the world, and IE being (for the time) the competent browser played a huge role…

I feel the same way. I recently installed Windows XP in a VM for nostalgia and it was shocking how much I realized windows has improved since then.

I'm not obsessed with windows 11, but I am the happiest using it than I've been with any other version (aside from the TPM 2.0 requirement, that's my #1 complaint)

Re: GOG's new owner can't stand Windows either: 'It's such poor-quality software '

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Post by nalathna »

legitster wrote: post #4

So part of me agrees, but part of me also feels like a victim of the boy who cried wolf. People have ragged on Windows going back for as long as I can remember. Only in hindsight did people ever express fondness in public for Windows XP (and maybe a bit for Windows 7). It's hard for me to distinguish how much of the vitriol is legitimate this time from developers, or will nostalgia glasses just haunt Windows forever.…

My daily small annoyance is that when my work laptop goes to sleep, it doesn't shut off primary and secondary displays at the same time and moves all my windows onto one monitor. Which monitor seems totally random, so I'm perpetually moving windows back to one screen or the other. And it doesn't respect my sleep settings if I put up the lock screen, instead almost immediately turns the monitors off.

Re: GOG's new owner can't stand Windows either: 'It's such poor-quality software '

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Post by hulitu »

concinds wrote: post #32
legitster wrote: post #4

So part of me agrees, but part of me also feels like a victim of the boy who cried wolf. People have ragged on Windows going back for as long as I can remember. Only in hindsight did people ever express fondness in public for Windows XP (and maybe a bit for Windows 7). It's hard for me to distinguish how much of the vitriol is legitimate this time from developers, or will nostalgia glasses just haunt Windows forever.…

Surely there are ways to measure its quality objectively, and separate dumb nostalgia from real concerns. Are support tickets down? Is the OS a less frequent root cause for tickets? IT people with big enough fleets could settle this debate. I’m a Mac person but Windows 11 seemed as fine as Windows 10 when I used it.

> Are support tickets down?

There is no support for Windows. At least for the mere mortals. Bugs are not acknoledged for months and then they might be, silently, fixed.

Re: GOG's new owner can't stand Windows either: 'It's such poor-quality software '

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Post by hulitu »

Austizzle wrote: post #46
pathartl wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's an unpopular opinion, but I genuinely believe that 11 is the best version of Windows yet. I've been using computers for 30 years and you're right, everyone has _always_ complained about Windows. The only reason people have a fondness for XP is because it was pretty much the world's first Windows. It's the OS that was used to connect the world, and IE being (for the time) the competent browser played a huge role…

I feel the same way. I recently installed Windows XP in a VM for nostalgia and it was shocking how much I realized windows has improved since then. I'm not obsessed with windows 11, but I am the happiest using it than I've been with any other version (aside from the TPM 2.0 requirement, that's my #1 complaint)

> it was shocking how much I realized windows has improved since then

YMMV

> not obsessed with windows 11, but I am the happiest using it

Good luck then. And, I really hope, you will remain happy in the future.

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