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Jeff Bezos hopes that you'll give up your PC to rent one from the cloud

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Re: Jeff Bezos hopes that you'll give up your PC to rent one from the cloud

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Post by InexSquirrel »

JohnFen wrote: post #11

I can't imagine a circumstance where I would do that. It's simply a nonstarter. I need to remain in complete control of my machines, and I am not in control of anything in the cloud.

Same feeling here, and I'm already getting frustrated with Windows pushing their crap into my OS. Definitely don't want even more of that.

Beyond work I only use the PC for gaming and watching movies - so really if the only option was 'it has to be in the cloud', then my position becomes "well I guess I don't really play games any more". Not the worst thing.

But whatever. Just because Jeff wants that, doesn't mean it will be so. And like who cares what he thinks? The only hat he ever wears is "how do I make more money", not "how do I ensure people live good lives and enjoy themselves".

Re: Jeff Bezos hopes that you'll give up your PC to rent one from the cloud

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Post by 63stack »

_23sd wrote: post #31

Seems like this article misses the enterprise angle which is the main question. I'm sure some gamers aching for an upgrade will sign up for cloud PCs while RAM is overpriced, just like how Geforce Now had a moment while GPUs were overpriced. But does it make any sense for businesses with massive fleets of Windows laptops, and might already have some kind of VDI setup, to replace them with thin clients? Would need som…

I'd say you are wrong on gamers aching for this. Any amount of latency ruins games, even turn based games lose a lot of their enjoyment when the ui starts getting delayed from user input.

Re: Jeff Bezos hopes that you'll give up your PC to rent one from the cloud

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Post by acuozzo »

hereonout2 wrote: post #38
_23sd wrote: post #31

Seems like this article misses the enterprise angle which is the main question. I'm sure some gamers aching for an upgrade will sign up for cloud PCs while RAM is overpriced, just like how Geforce Now had a moment while GPUs were overpriced. But does it make any sense for businesses with massive fleets of Windows laptops, and might already have some kind of VDI setup, to replace them with thin clients? Would need som…

I'm not really a big gamer but was looking into buying an xbox again. I already had a controller and thought why not try xbox cloud gaming on my Samsung TV. With a decent internet connection I now struggle to see why anyone would want to buy a hardware Xbox. Games on the cloud version load instantly, play brilliantly and cost the same as the usual Game Pass as far as I can tell. The catalogue seems smaller maybe but…

> I could see it working well for PCs too

I moonlight in film restoration. One 2hr movie out of our scanner is easily 16 TiB or more depending on the settings we scanned with.

Getting this uploaded to a remote server would take ~39hr over a fully-saturated 1Gbe pipe.

Re: Jeff Bezos hopes that you'll give up your PC to rent one from the cloud

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Post by DamnInteresting »

SvenL wrote: post #20

Well, at least for gaming It worked for me quite well with GeForce NOW. I have a MacBook can play here and there some games I like - as a casual gamer it’s fine. I wouldn’t bother to maintain a gaming PC for the casual gaming sessions I have. In this sense - yes, I gave up my non existing gaming PC to rent. To be honest for 95% of stuff it would be enough to connect my smartphone via USB-C to a dock for mouse/keyboar…

> To be honest for 95% of stuff it would be enough to connect my smartphone via USB-C to a dock for mouse/keyboard/displays etc.

I was blogging about this basic idea back in 2005, just over 20 years ago:

https://www.damninteresting.com/retired/mobile-phone-as-comp...

I still think it's a good idea, but it sure is being slow to materialize in a practical form factor.

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Post by wolvoleo »

InexSquirrel wrote: post #40
wolvoleo wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've given up trying to improve society. They keep voting for the worst idiots they can, buying from the worst exploitative businesses etc. Most people are acting against their own interest and I'm not going to change that. I'm just trying to isolate myself now from these toxic developments. If society falls into techno fascism after I'm gone, so be it. They wanted it. While I am around I'll shield myself as much as…

I could be wrong, but maybe you trying to shield yourself from these things also cuts you off from the good that's happening? There's a lot of bad things going on - but (and not saying this as justification) - there always has. There's always some power hungry person that claws their way to a position where they can benefit themselves at the expense of others. But the majority of people want to have good, peaceful li…

Oh I do, I just participate less online. I go to more local events. But I see there that more people tend to disconnect online too (lgbt community etc).

I just don't follow the mainstream news much anymore. I still like HN and some other tech sites.

Re: Jeff Bezos hopes that you'll give up your PC to rent one from the cloud

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Post by Finnucane »

_23sd wrote: post #31

Seems like this article misses the enterprise angle which is the main question. I'm sure some gamers aching for an upgrade will sign up for cloud PCs while RAM is overpriced, just like how Geforce Now had a moment while GPUs were overpriced. But does it make any sense for businesses with massive fleets of Windows laptops, and might already have some kind of VDI setup, to replace them with thin clients? Would need som…

Sure, why not? A lot of them are already heavily invested in ms services. Where I work, laptops are on three year leases, they’d be easy to switch if the IT suits thought it would be cheap enough.

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Post by wolvesechoes »

peppersghost93 wrote: post #37
butvacuum wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

with or without a manifesto?

I knew someone would compare me to Uncle Ted but I don't share political ideology with him. I'd just want to live out my life peacefully in nature.

> I'd just want to live out my life peacefully in nature.

But it is precisely what he wanted as well :).

Re: Jeff Bezos hopes that you'll give up your PC to rent one from the cloud

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Post by wolvesechoes »

wolvoleo wrote: post #9
purplecats wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yes, you are an outlier, and one day (presumably <50 years) your hands will be cold and dead, along with your representation in the holdout resistance movement. you must make a bigger impact than standing your (individual) ground

I've given up trying to improve society. They keep voting for the worst idiots they can, buying from the worst exploitative businesses etc. Most people are acting against their own interest and I'm not going to change that. I'm just trying to isolate myself now from these toxic developments. If society falls into techno fascism after I'm gone, so be it. They wanted it. While I am around I'll shield myself as much as…

> I've given up trying to improve society.

And what have you done before giving up?

> While I am around I'll shield myself as much as possible by self hosting, custom phone ROMs etc.

It is the opium for nerdy people. You are not important, and this is the only thing that shields you. Your custom ROMs will mean nothing if they decide to come for you.

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