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Who Works With ‘Creative Coders?’

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Re: Who Works With ‘Creative Coders?’

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Thanks for this! I'm among the new batch of students that are the subject of this article and currently looking for jobs in NY. I've been maintaining a similar list, but yours contains a number of additions for which I'm grateful. Some advice: I've applied to a lot of these places and haven't gotten replies – it's my understanding that it's much better to approach through personal connections. A few companies not on…

I'd also mention Stamen: www.stamen.com

Re: Who Works With ‘Creative Coders?’

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The term "creative" is misleading though and its use should be discouraged. I worked at a consulting company that started doing agency work, hired designers, promoted creative directors, built a creative department, added a creative area with a creative room and so on and so forth. This was always a point of contention for the developers. It's especially silly when this article ostensibly promotes crossover coders wh…

Re: "Boo, unfair! I am creative too!" Fine, probably you are. But creative coders in the context of this article do slightly different tasks and their job requires a different mindset, than conventional software engineering. I know, I do both. I also find it funny when people start arguing on the meanings of the word "hacker". Obviously it has to mean what I do, (otherwise I would loose my cool). Except when a potent…

The company I work at now doesn't make the distinction and has plenty of coders who "do both." I also do both.

"Creative" is still a bad name. When your application evolves and the names of your services no longer match their business purposes, it's a good practice to update the naming to increase clarity. The same should be true of your departments and job descriptions.

Keeping a name even though it doesn't make sense just because it's traditional and an industry standard is pretty lame. I doubt you'd find much support for that kind of thinking here.

Re: Who Works With ‘Creative Coders?’

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Thanks for this! I'm among the new batch of students that are the subject of this article and currently looking for jobs in NY. I've been maintaining a similar list, but yours contains a number of additions for which I'm grateful. Some advice: I've applied to a lot of these places and haven't gotten replies – it's my understanding that it's much better to approach through personal connections. A few companies not on…

Cipher Prime (Auditorium, Fractal, Pulse:Volume One, Splice) in Philadelphia, PA belongs on the list, their apps all fit squarely in the "creative coding" category.

http://www.cipherprime.com

Re: Who Works With ‘Creative Coders?’

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I agree with all of the sentiments in the article, but the one small thing that I do disagree with is the conflation of the word "creative" with what the author seems to indicate are artistic or graphical/visual disciplines. I believe that all programming, whether or not it's graphical or "artistic" in nature, is creative. Development is just as much a craft as it is a logical discipline. Learning algorithms, data st…

It has unfortunate, unintended side-meaning sometimes, but groups tend to grab the flag they can. The cinder/processing/max-msp-jitter-pd/demo scene grabbed "creative coder" as their moniker a while back, and it's probably too late to change it - and it does make sense, if you view it from the vantage point that creative coding" is the core activity of making a specific type of audio/visual artifact (or just art, or even Fine Art) - which people usually group with art/Art, so it fits.

You can always get bent out of shape about what people end up calling things... I mostly got over it back in the "web master" days.

Sites to peruse about "creative" coding &/|| that support for the contention that cc is an established term:

http://www.creativeapplications.net

http://creativecodingpodcast.com

http://cplus.about.com/b/2010/12/09/what-is-creative-coding....

http://createdigitalmotion.com

But I'll also agree with you, remember & underscore that much programing is inherently creative:

http://lifedev.net/2008/07/programmer-creativity-boost/

I'm using Fine Art/Art as shorthand for "arts existing within the historical institutional context of galleries, academies, collectors and museums" (which is what most people mean when they capitalize art, I think, even if they wouldn't necessarily say it that way)

Re: Who Works With ‘Creative Coders?’

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Thanks for this! I'm among the new batch of students that are the subject of this article and currently looking for jobs in NY. I've been maintaining a similar list, but yours contains a number of additions for which I'm grateful. Some advice: I've applied to a lot of these places and haven't gotten replies – it's my understanding that it's much better to approach through personal connections. A few companies not on…

BBDO in New York actively collaborate with a lot of these great companies but also have in house "creative" coders.

We are hiring. Drop me a line - sermad at gmail

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