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Circumcision classed as possible child abuse in draft CPS document

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Re: Circumcision classed as possible child abuse in draft CPS document

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Post by DoctorOetker »

Der_Einzige wrote: post #31
cramsession wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't believe in that and it sounds totally out there, yet it's far less extreme than infant genital mutilation.

That's my point. Yes it's tongue-in-cheek. No I'm not an SCP version of a "furry" or "otherkin" who thinks that their make believe universe is real. It's an analogy for the INSANITY of the current acceptance of mass circumcision uncritically by the masses.

You don't need a "Ketar class SCP object", simple conflict of interest from the Medical-Industrial Complex will do.

All those skin banks could turn into liabilities instead of profit centers, since preservation of the product is also preservation of the evidence.

A functioning government would waltz in, keep the power on, start sequencing the tissues and cells to identify at least some of the victims, and do this in a transparent and public way.

Re: Circumcision classed as possible child abuse in draft CPS document

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Post by odyssey7 »

HiPhish wrote: post #35

I have seen babies with pierced ears and studs. Even when there is no religious pressure some people are just so sick in their head, they will have their babies put through mutilation just because they think it looks "cute". Those people deserve to have railroad spikes driven through their skin. I would advocate for banning all non-necessary body modification on small children. And before anyone tells me "it's better…

There isn’t an equivalence between pierced ears, which is reversible, and circumcision, which is not.

Re: Circumcision classed as possible child abuse in draft CPS document

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Post by IshKebab »

GeoAtreides wrote: post #39
foxglacier wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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They're not different: they both irreversibly violate body autonomy for non-medical purposes.

They're clearly different. FGM generally has much more severe consequences than circumcision. They should both be banned but FGM is clearly much worse.

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Post by edanm »

GeoAtreides wrote: post #39
foxglacier wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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They're not different: they both irreversibly violate body autonomy for non-medical purposes.

So does getting your kid's ears pierced. So does fixing their teeth for aesthetic reasons.

Re: Circumcision classed as possible child abuse in draft CPS document

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Post by wrsh07 »

9x39 wrote: post #38
wrsh07 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In general, I'm surprised by the vitriol in these comments. I think your claim proves too much: If you pick a different religion (my siblings and their kids are religious - not Jewish), you could similarly say "even though they're happy being raised in their religion, they have no way to know whether they would prefer to have been raised agnostic/atheist" (or some other religion) Of course that's true for many decisi…

You can stretch it to religion, if you consider being inculcated in a certain religion a 1-way door. Circumcision removes nerve endings and results in an exposed glans, which thickens the skin and further dulls its nerve endings. This is a 1-way reduction in sexual capacity, which the child doesn't have any say in. Comparing it to ear piercing isn't the same, which, while cartilage doesn't heal easily, there's no sex…

I don't know that your claims about male circumcision have any basis in fact

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26724395/?utm_source=chatgpt...

Re: Circumcision classed as possible child abuse in draft CPS document

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Post by dang »

DoctorOetker wrote: post #43

the discussion got flagged why is it not possible to vouch for the discussion?

It's flagged but not dead. These are not the same thing. See https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html. Also:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39676944

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38918548

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