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Re: NASA announces unprecedented return of sick ISS astronaut and crew

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Why be so secretive? This is not a military mission. These missions cost a lot of taxpayer money (money well spend you may argue), but we deserve full transparency. You don't get to go to space on other people's money and expect privacy. We might want to learn from what went wrong here.

> Why be so secretive? This is not a military mission. These missions cost a lot of taxpayer money (money well spend you may argue), but we deserve full transparency. We deserve as much transparency as we can get on the science we as taxpayers paid for, not full de-anonymization of the bodily happenings of living crew. There's certainly valuable science here, but the crew member doesn't have to be outed for it. > You…

I remember watching a landing and the camera cut away when one of the returning astronauts got sick.

These are human beings and employees not Big Brother contestants.

Re: NASA announces unprecedented return of sick ISS astronaut and crew

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Did NASA say when they're coming back? The article didn't mention it. Should also mention NASA is trying to move up the launch of Crew 12 to cover some of the gap.

>NASA has said it will announce a target return date in the coming days.

Re: NASA announces unprecedented return of sick ISS astronaut and crew

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Related question. Have transmittable diseases spread in space? What examples do we know of?

There have been a few instances, IIRC there was an Apollo mission that had a head cold spread among the whole crew. But that's unlikely to be the case here because they've been up there isolated for over 6 months now

Would it be possible for some food to have been contaminated with something? It seems unlikely.

Re: NASA announces unprecedented return of sick ISS astronaut and crew

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Related question. Have transmittable diseases spread in space? What examples do we know of?

This describes NASA's pre-flight quarantines since Apollo 14, and makes (very brief) references to in-flight diseases (and apparent transmission) prior to Apollo 14 ("upper respiratory infection"; "viral gastroenteritis"),

https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/ochmo-tb-006... ("Health Stabilization Program (HSP)")

Re: NASA announces unprecedented return of sick ISS astronaut and crew

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You go first, then. Let’s see your full medical records without redaction if you think it’s a net benefit. I think there's value in reducing stigma around health conditions, but forcing poor people to reveal their medical conditions to the world isn't it.

This is not honestly engaging with GP's statement. The benefit only accrues if the sharing is universal. I am too private a person to agree with GP, but it does seem that most health issues that are visible to the passerby or casual acquaintence are less stigmatized than the ones that can be hidden. There might be something to the idea. Of course you'd have to agree that de-stigmatizing is more socially important tha…

> The benefit only accrues if the sharing is universal.

The GP's statement wasn't for universal sharing. It was to force recipients of taxpayer money to share their medical records.

It's a gross demand: Force poor and old people to reveal their medical conditions to the world.

Re: NASA announces unprecedented return of sick ISS astronaut and crew

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not honestly engaging with GP's statement. The benefit only accrues if the sharing is universal. I am too private a person to agree with GP, but it does seem that most health issues that are visible to the passerby or casual acquaintence are less stigmatized than the ones that can be hidden. There might be something to the idea. Of course you'd have to agree that de-stigmatizing is more socially important tha…

> The benefit only accrues if the sharing is universal. The GP's statement wasn't for universal sharing. It was to force recipients of taxpayer money to share their medical records. It's a gross demand: Force poor and old people to reveal their medical conditions to the world.

GP did not specify that their thought was scoped to the same people as GGP's (explicitly dystopian) scenario, so I read their comment as working on the kernel of the idea and not the horrifying class-based discriminatory version.

While I am still confident of that assessment, I'll grant you that "obvious" charitable interpretation is not as reliable as it should be. :-/

Re: NASA announces unprecedented return of sick ISS astronaut and crew

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Related question. Have transmittable diseases spread in space? What examples do we know of?

There have been a few instances, IIRC there was an Apollo mission that had a head cold spread among the whole crew. But that's unlikely to be the case here because they've been up there isolated for over 6 months now

> IIRC there was an Apollo mission that had a head cold spread among the whole crew.

Yep, Apollo 7.

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