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Google AI Studio is now sponsoring Tailwind CSS

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Re: Google AI Studio is now sponsoring Tailwind CSS

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Post by perks_12 »

sodapopcan wrote: post #32
manmal wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What costs could tailwind the OSS project have besides payroll and SaaS subs of max 20% the payroll?

Hosting, marketing, other promotional stuff (conferences, maybe other?), there are still three people on the payroll and otherwise I don't know (which was part of my point) as I've never run a business like this before myself. Oh, subscriptions to AI services... that's pricey I hear ;)

Hosting for their documentation would only be a noteworthy amount if they chose to host on Vercel. Other than that it's a Hetzner box at $100 per month tops.

Re: Google AI Studio is now sponsoring Tailwind CSS

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Post by blacksmith_tb »

spankalee wrote: post #39
northern-lights wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems to be in Google's interest to keep Tailwind CSS afloat. Tailwind CSS is alive -> New / existing projects keep using Tailwind CSS -> more code for Gemini to train upon -> better and fancier UIs being created through Gemini -> popularity and usage of Gemini doesn't go down Of course this applies to any other LLM provider too but I guess Google saw this opportunity first.

I think it'd be better for AI and web dev if AIs generated real CSS instead. The supposed difficulty of tracking from elements to classes to rulesets is something that AIs can easily handle, and being able to change a ruleset once and have the update apply to all use sites is really good for AI-driven changes. Plus, humans and AIs won't have to wait for Tailwind to adopt new CSS features as they are added. If the AI…

I'm not a fan of Tailwind, but I can see that it's probably reasonable for code gen to be able to write / extend projects that use Tailwind, since it's in pretty widespread use. For a new project, maybe it could ask if you want to use Tailwind or just keep things vanilla?

Re: Google AI Studio is now sponsoring Tailwind CSS

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Post by DoesntMatter22 »

spankalee wrote: post #39
northern-lights wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems to be in Google's interest to keep Tailwind CSS afloat. Tailwind CSS is alive -> New / existing projects keep using Tailwind CSS -> more code for Gemini to train upon -> better and fancier UIs being created through Gemini -> popularity and usage of Gemini doesn't go down Of course this applies to any other LLM provider too but I guess Google saw this opportunity first.

I think it'd be better for AI and web dev if AIs generated real CSS instead. The supposed difficulty of tracking from elements to classes to rulesets is something that AIs can easily handle, and being able to change a ruleset once and have the update apply to all use sites is really good for AI-driven changes. Plus, humans and AIs won't have to wait for Tailwind to adopt new CSS features as they are added. If the AI…

Totally agree with this, and I think it's what will likely happen. IMO Tailwind got to the point where you are adding dozens of classes to the tag and it gets a little unwieldy. There are some options to get around it but if AI just does't need it it's even better.

Re: Google AI Studio is now sponsoring Tailwind CSS

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Post by DoesntMatter22 »

jrjeksjd8d wrote: post #30
XCSme wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most likely, as Adam directly "credited" their revenue issues to AI (which makes sense, tailwind was making money by selling pre-made components, but now the AI can generate those for you).

The AI issue was that their docs advertise their paid offerings. When AI plagiarizes the docs it doesn't include the ads.

When you say plagiarizes, do you mean they are publishing their own docs without ads? Or you mean when the AI is reading the docs instead of a person they ignore the ads?

Re: Google AI Studio is now sponsoring Tailwind CSS

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Post by [deleted] »

mdasen wrote: post #14

This is good, but it doesn't necessarily mean that Tailwind is out of the financial difficulty that we talked about yesterday. You can sponsor Tailwind for as little as $6,000/year. 29 companies were already sponsoring Tailwind including 16 companies at the $60,000/year level. Maybe Google AI Studio has decided to shell out a lot more, but it could also be a relatively small sponsorship compared to the $1.1M in spons…

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Re: Google AI Studio is now sponsoring Tailwind CSS

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Post by flowerthoughts »

atonse wrote: post #12
blibble wrote: post #8

I suppose this an attempt to try and head off the stories about "AI" killing open source

Google has poured untold millions into open source over the last couple of decades, not just by sponsorships, but also by employing contributors, etc. I don't think that'll change with AI. They just needed to be reminded about the financials of Tailwind and I'm sure it was an easy conversation internally.

Yes, but someone managed to get funding for an external sponsorship in a single day? I'm happily surprised.

Re: Google AI Studio is now sponsoring Tailwind CSS

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Post by [deleted] »

perks_12 wrote: post #41
sodapopcan wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hosting, marketing, other promotional stuff (conferences, maybe other?), there are still three people on the payroll and otherwise I don't know (which was part of my point) as I've never run a business like this before myself. Oh, subscriptions to AI services... that's pricey I hear ;)

Hosting for their documentation would only be a noteworthy amount if they chose to host on Vercel. Other than that it's a Hetzner box at $100 per month tops.

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Re: Google AI Studio is now sponsoring Tailwind CSS

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Post by baggachipz »

mrgoldenbrown wrote: post #31
baggachipz wrote: post #2

On one hand, this is great as Tailwind can continue as a going concern. On the other, how long until Tailwind AI?

It's not clear how much Google is kicking in, it might not actually be enough to keep Tailwind going.

Well now that it's on the HN front page, it had better be a lot :). If it's 6k this will be a bit of a PR kerfuffle.
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