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Using fewer syllables to express numbers

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Re: Using fewer syllables to express numbers

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Post by vincent-manis »

moeffju wrote: post #39
vincent-manis wrote: post #27

I tried "4765" (four syllables), and got "sixty-nine squared plus four" (6 syllables). The ICAO phonetic alphabet specifically pronounces "4" as "fouwer", and "9" as "niner", so as to increase redundancy on a noisy channel.

You got "four thou-sand se-ven hun-dred six-ty-five" :)

Nope, I got "four seven six five", which is exactly how I would read that number if it were a street address, or a phone extension, or an inumber, or the like. You will notice that the site doesn't give any context about the usage of these numbers.

Re: Using fewer syllables to express numbers

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Post by oniony »

SilasX wrote: post #40
oniony wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

May as well just use sept from French.

That runs into the issue I was talking about in the proposal, where it's not backward-compatible and requires people to be informed of and sympathetic to the renaming. "Sen" will already be accepted as referring to 7, without such coordination, so long as it has enough context to be parsed as a number.

I doubt anyone would associate 'sen' with seven: 'sev' would be much more obvious. Whereas 'sept' is already used as a prefix within English to mean seven such as September (Roman seventh month), septuplets (seven children in a single birth) and septuagenarian (a 70 year old).

Anyhow, this discussion is moot as nobody is going to follow any proposal.

Re: Using fewer syllables to express numbers

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Post by SilasX »

oniony wrote: post #42
SilasX wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That runs into the issue I was talking about in the proposal, where it's not backward-compatible and requires people to be informed of and sympathetic to the renaming. "Sen" will already be accepted as referring to 7, without such coordination, so long as it has enough context to be parsed as a number.

I doubt anyone would associate 'sen' with seven: 'sev' would be much more obvious. Whereas 'sept' is already used as a prefix within English to mean seven such as September (Roman seventh month), septuplets (seven children in a single birth) and septuagenarian (a 70 year old). Anyhow, this discussion is moot as nobody is going to follow any proposal.

The whole point is that you don't need to get anyone to consciously follow any proposal, you just push common usage in the direction of saying "sen" to the point that it becomes correct, and you can take action now to assist it, without having to coordinate, and without breaking your existing communication.

With respect, your comments read as ignoring all the points I brought up in in order to show off knowledge you're proud to have.

Re: Using fewer syllables to express numbers

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Post by oniony »

SilasX wrote: post #43
oniony wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I doubt anyone would associate 'sen' with seven: 'sev' would be much more obvious. Whereas 'sept' is already used as a prefix within English to mean seven such as September (Roman seventh month), septuplets (seven children in a single birth) and septuagenarian (a 70 year old). Anyhow, this discussion is moot as nobody is going to follow any proposal.

The whole point is that you don't need to get anyone to consciously follow any proposal, you just push common usage in the direction of saying "sen" to the point that it becomes correct, and you can take action now to assist it, without having to coordinate, and without breaking your existing communication. With respect, your comments read as ignoring all the points I brought up in in order to show off knowledge you'…

It'll never happen. You can sen all ypu like and nobody will use it. Honestly do you seriously believe in all reality it would?

And saying "with respect" to make a disrespectful personal insult is just pathetic.

Re: Using fewer syllables to express numbers

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Post by SilasX »

oniony wrote: post #44
SilasX wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The whole point is that you don't need to get anyone to consciously follow any proposal, you just push common usage in the direction of saying "sen" to the point that it becomes correct, and you can take action now to assist it, without having to coordinate, and without breaking your existing communication. With respect, your comments read as ignoring all the points I brought up in in order to show off knowledge you'…

It'll never happen. You can sen all ypu like and nobody will use it. Honestly do you seriously believe in all reality it would? And saying "with respect" to make a disrespectful personal insult is just pathetic.

Thanks for the second confirmation.
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