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Linux DAW: Help Linux musicians to quickly and easily find the tools they need

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Re: Linux DAW: Help Linux musicians to quickly and easily find the tools they need

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Just an fyi to anyone making or thinking of making one of these: Turning a knob with a mouse is the worst interface I can think of. I don't know why audio apps/DAWs fall so hard on skeuomorphism here when the interface just doesn't make sense in the context.

It works great though, what's the alternative? It's visually small, so you can fit a lot of controls in a small space. You can glance at it and know the current setting and where it falls within the range of possible values. By making the mouse control modal when you click on a knob (so you start dragging and can drag over a much larger area than you could for say a slider, which isn't modal) you have immensely precise control over the value in realtime, while still being able to quickly make big changes. This is essential for performance. Combining this with some gentle mouse acceleration for the rate of change of the control when dragging gives you even more precise control. This isn't possible with a slider either.

I would say the opposite, it's basically the perfect interface for a very specific scenario with requirements that don't really occur in much other computer software.

Re: Linux DAW: Help Linux musicians to quickly and easily find the tools they need

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> Turning a knob with a mouse is the worst interface I can think of. I'm racking my brain thinking of what a better interface would be for selecting a number between a range of values, where the number is a point on a continuum and not any specific value, and can't think of one. The equivalent "traditional" UX for webapps would be a slider control, but that's functionally the same and you'd be going against many year…

Is it fair to assume most mouses have a scroll wheel? Hover and use that? Do they do that?

Some audio software lets you do this but mouse wheels are incredibly imprecise compared to the mouse sensor itself so this isn't really useful for many types of control which require precise adjustment.

Re: Linux DAW: Help Linux musicians to quickly and easily find the tools they need

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The real-time low latency multi channel audio streaming needed for musicians is awfully similar to the real time low latency multi channel audio streaming required for telephony. Yet somehow the two industries have pretty much entirely different tech stacks and don't seem to talk to one another.

I feel like equating telephony and music production is like saying writing firmware and a HTTP/JSON backend for a website is the same. True, both are programming I suppose, but vastly different requirements, assumptions and environments.

Re: Linux DAW: Help Linux musicians to quickly and easily find the tools they need

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Is there a way I can see which would run on a raspberry pi?

They will need arm builds sadly so the list is likely going to be rather small.

Pretty much everything in the linux audio world runs fine on ARM

Re: Linux DAW: Help Linux musicians to quickly and easily find the tools they need

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Is there a way I can see which would run on a raspberry pi?

kxstudio supports rpi, it comes with a few DAWs and a great deal more, it is probably your best bet for this stuff on pi unless you want to compile stuff yourself.

https://kx.studio/

Re: Linux DAW: Help Linux musicians to quickly and easily find the tools they need

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Just an fyi to anyone making or thinking of making one of these: Turning a knob with a mouse is the worst interface I can think of. I don't know why audio apps/DAWs fall so hard on skeuomorphism here when the interface just doesn't make sense in the context.

A 20 pixel knob has considerably greater resolution than a 20 pixel slider with its max resolution of 20. I don't think I have come across a digital knob that you have to turn with the mouse since the previous century, just drag up or down or left or right.

Or scroll your mouse wheel up and down

Re: Linux DAW: Help Linux musicians to quickly and easily find the tools they need

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A 20 pixel knob has considerably greater resolution than a 20 pixel slider with its max resolution of 20. I don't think I have come across a digital knob that you have to turn with the mouse since the previous century, just drag up or down or left or right.

Or scroll your mouse wheel up and down

The scrolling makes sense. Dragging up and down does not.

Re: Linux DAW: Help Linux musicians to quickly and easily find the tools they need

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Is it fair to assume most mouses have a scroll wheel? Hover and use that? Do they do that?

> Is it fair to assume most mouses have a scroll wheel? Probably not, a lot of musicians develop on the go (planes etc) so they're dealing with built-in trackpads pretty often. You can still scroll but it's not as ergonomic.

This is one of the things which helped sell me on Thinkpads with their three physical trackpad buttons and trackpoint, middle click+trackpoint gets you your scroll wheel and it is quite ergonomic.

Re: Linux DAW: Help Linux musicians to quickly and easily find the tools they need

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Just an fyi to anyone making or thinking of making one of these: Turning a knob with a mouse is the worst interface I can think of. I don't know why audio apps/DAWs fall so hard on skeuomorphism here when the interface just doesn't make sense in the context.

It works great though, what's the alternative? It's visually small, so you can fit a lot of controls in a small space. You can glance at it and know the current setting and where it falls within the range of possible values. By making the mouse control modal when you click on a knob (so you start dragging and can drag over a much larger area than you could for say a slider, which isn't modal) you have immensely preci…

The alternative is the mouse wheel and keybinds. Flight Simulators got this right. Roll up on the wheel to increase the value, roll back on the wheel to decrease the value. Left click to push, right click to pop (or context menu, left click to push it again to turn off).

In fact, if it was all MIDI controlled, it's just a matter of mapping the mouse scroll wheel to a midi channel.

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