Cursor has been annoying me lately with their updates breaking ever further away from vscode UI. Might give copilot another shot. Needs a plan mode though, it really is necessary for complex operations.
VSCode rebrands as "The open source AI code editor"
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#42Nice, this finally solves my "waffling between vscode & neovim" problem
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#43Curious what the market share is for vscode Vs its derivatives
I would not be surprised if the market share breakdown is similar to browsers (eg 70+ percent - more if you ignore that safari is the only real option on iOS). VSCode has slowly been getting more and more bloated, but the alternatives are all very meh or are missing crucial extensions.
Out of curiousity, what is an example of a crucial extension alternatives are missing?
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#44This type of branding makes it impossible to find products lately.
I was recently looking for embedded analytics platforms (and was willing to pay), but the search became incredibly frustrating as every database or analytics tool now brands itself as some AI first thing. The landing pages no longer help me figure out what they do, which I guess is good for raising investor money but I'm sure it can't be good for real sales.
I hope that soon the mania can end and we can get useful branding again.
VSCode to me is better branded as the editor with the best plugin ecosystem around. The AI features should just be plugins to an incredibly flexible editor. But I know MS wants to sell subscriptions like windsurf and cursor.
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#45It does seem to me like Microsoft (and every other company developing AI models) is doing so at a loss, and a signifigant one. Is the play here to get everyone hooked on AI and then jack up the price to make a profit? If so, I worry about Junior devs in particular, who have never developed the skills to write software themselves, suddenly finding themselves being "cut off" from their AI dealer Or people generally who…
This is 1000% the play, it's the only one that actually works out (for _some_ vendors). Extra fun when you've let go of all your actual experienced engineers and then the squeeze comes.
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#46This is the bit that gives me pause: > In certain markets, we use conversation data to train the generative AI models in Copilot, unless you choose to opt-out of such training. "Build me a SaaS platform exactly like ____" If agents become as good at long running tasks as we're told they will do by giving Microsoft access to your codebase and inner business processes to give to anyone that wants to the ability to clon…
At least they are clear about it: It's an editor for open-source AI code. It's not intended to be used for maintaining internal software projects.
The most reasonable reading of that description is that VSCode itself is open source, not that it is only intended for editing open source software. Furthermore, nothing in the license suggests that. If that was their intent they were very much not clear about communicating it.
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#47I love vscodium but more and more I worry about how Microsoft is effecting it down stream. To the point where I'm actively looking into making my own editor. I'm putting it off for now but I'll probably start playing around with Theia and Codemirror on the side just in case.
Why would you look to make your own code editor? There are so many already and for example NeoVim is great and would allow you to make modifications as you please. I’m not trying to disprove your argument, rather I’m interested in your motivations
My guess is they're vastly underestimating the time and effort that would take, however, I understand the motivation somewhat, as there's no guarantee that whatever alternative to VSCode you settle on won't also eventually go all-in on AI. For example, KDevelop is planning on heavy AI integration soon.
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#48It’s a rote observation at this point, but: there’s a clear discrepancy between the demonstrated value of LLMs (which is, to be clear, significant!) and the aggressive manner in which Microsoft has introduced them into their products. The latter is what you do when you can’t demonstrate value, and it produces worse outcomes by design (because it starts from the assumption that users need to be given the stick instead…
I think a lot of this is just crappy bonus and incentive structures.
The execs want to they're using+selling AI, the investors want to believe AI can theoretically fire all the workers/drop your fixed costs, and the middle managers need to justify that they're on it by myopically pushing out features that increase the AI adoption metric.
The rushed push of AI features obviously trains your users that your AI is useless crap that just gets in the way. If you're going to do it's, make it limited and high quality first.
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#49It’s a rote observation at this point, but: there’s a clear discrepancy between the demonstrated value of LLMs (which is, to be clear, significant!) and the aggressive manner in which Microsoft has introduced them into their products. The latter is what you do when you can’t demonstrate value, and it produces worse outcomes by design (because it starts from the assumption that users need to be given the stick instead…
I think a lot of this is just crappy bonus and incentive structures. The execs want to they're using+selling AI, the investors want to believe AI can theoretically fire all the workers/drop your fixed costs, and the middle managers need to justify that they're on it by myopically pushing out features that increase the AI adoption metric. The rushed push of AI features obviously trains your users that your AI is usele…
Yeah, completely agreed. It just seems like such a funny place to have those kinds of perverted incentives, given that this stuff is actually kind of useful and clearly has market fit!
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#50I love vscodium but more and more I worry about how Microsoft is effecting it down stream. To the point where I'm actively looking into making my own editor. I'm putting it off for now but I'll probably start playing around with Theia and Codemirror on the side just in case.
There are very performant and capable options like SublimeText out there https://www.sublimetext.com/