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MiniMax M2.1: Built for Real-World Complex Tasks, Multi-Language Programming

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Re: MiniMax M2.1: Built for Real-World Complex Tasks, Multi-Language Programming

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post #2

One of the cited reviews goes: “We're excited for powerful open-source models like M2.1 […]” Yet as far as I can tell, this model isn’t open at all. Not even open weights, nevermind open source.

Repo made public a few minutes ago:

https://huggingface.co/MiniMaxAI/MiniMax-M2.1

Re: MiniMax M2.1: Built for Real-World Complex Tasks, Multi-Language Programming

#42
post #14

> MiniMax has been continuously transforming itself in a more AI-native way. The core driving forces of this process are models, Agent scaffolding, and organization. Throughout the exploration process, we have gained increasingly deeper understanding of these three aspects. Today we are releasing updates to the model component, namely MiniMax M2.1, hoping to help more enterprises and individuals find more AI-native w…

so when MiniMax released a pretty capable model, you choose to ignore the model itself and just focus a single sentence they wrote in the release note and started bad mouthing it. is it a cultural thing?

It’s called bikeshedding and yes it’s a cultural thing on HN. [1]

Most people here are big company worker bees where they take zero risks and do very little of substance.

In these organizations, it’s common for large groups of people to get together in “meetings” and endlessly nitpick surface-level details of unimportant things while completely missing the big picture because it’s far too complex to allow for easy opinions or smart-sounding critique.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_triviality

Re: MiniMax M2.1: Built for Real-World Complex Tasks, Multi-Language Programming

#47
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not an AI coding agent. It's an LLM that can be used for whatever you'd like, including powering coding agents.

HA! I almost added a disclaimer to the original message that I wasn't certain in my identification, hence the request/complaint that they didn't make it clear. But I figured the message would be more effective if I "confidently got it wrong" rather than asking, so I went with it.

Some sad irony: just like saying the wrong thing is more likely to get you a reply, using a poor title gets them more engagement.

Re: MiniMax M2.1: Built for Real-World Complex Tasks, Multi-Language Programming

#48
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

a model is not software, it is a bunch of weights. you are more than welcomed to pick whatever model or software you choose to trust, that is totally fine. However, that is vastly different from bad mouthing a model or software just because its release note contains a single sentence you don't like.

The API is software. You don't get the weights.

The weights are open.

Re: MiniMax M2.1: Built for Real-World Complex Tasks, Multi-Language Programming

#49
Very anecdotal but for me this model has very weak prompt adherence. I compared it a tiny bit to gemini flash 3.0 and simple things like "don't use markdown tables in output" was very hard to get with m2.1

Took me like 5 prompt iterations until it finally listened.

But it's very good, better than flash 3.0 in terms of code output and reasoning while being cheaper.

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