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We invited a man into our home at Christmas and he stayed with us for 45 years

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Re: We invited a man into our home at Christmas and he stayed with us for 45 years

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Post by ekjhgkejhgk »

cenazoic wrote: post #35
ekjhgkejhgk wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Different people are different I guess. Extra expense and inconvenience also wouldn't bother me. Instead I'd be worried that one day this guy is going to kill everyone while we're sleeping. How well do you really know someone? How well do you really know someone that just showed up at your door days before?

“Overall, 76% of female murders and 56% of male murders were perpetrated by someone known to the victim.” https://bjs.ojp.gov/female-murder-victims-and-victim-offende...

> “Overall, 76% of female murders and 56% of male murders were perpetrated by someone known to the victim.”

> https://bjs.ojp.gov/female-murder-victims-and-victim-offende...

Lets say M is "being murdered" and A is "stranger in the house", "not A" is "person known to the victim in the house".

The numbers you're quoting say that P(not A | M) is large, implying that P(A | M) is small.

However, to make a decision on whether to let someone in, I care about P(M | A).

You need to exercise that critical thinking more. You just heard someone say "the murders are known to the victim" and you instantly dropped your common sense.

Re: We invited a man into our home at Christmas and he stayed with us for 45 years

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Post by ekjhgkejhgk »

bondarchuk wrote: post #39
oulipo2 wrote: post #37

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Sure, but in France we have about 100/150 feminicides per year. You're much more likely to be killed by your (seemingly "sane") partner in a bout of fury over a breakup than by some random autistic guy

Bayes' law, many more people have romantic partners than former homeless living with them.

Thank you!! I just commented the same thing, but people will eat any meme you throw at them, it's quite shocking.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46384274

One thing that spending time talking to people online has taught me is how often what people say is just mindlessly repeating something they heard somewhere.

It's also fantastic how I find your response more persuasive than mine, while using fewer words. Well done.

Re: We invited a man into our home at Christmas and he stayed with us for 45 years

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Post by tomrod »

reop2whiskey wrote: post #19

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How I wish such blithe, naive approaches could solve the major social quandries of our time. Unfortunately experience and time have proven lack of support is a death sentence to so many, to the detriment of all.

Re: We invited a man into our home at Christmas and he stayed with us for 45 years

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Post by ajb »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #17
cogman10 wrote: post #13

Beautiful story but with a sad undertone. A large percentage of the homeless have autism [1]. And that really sucks. If these people don't have support, their lives can turn miserable fast. And unfortunately it's just way too easy for these people to end up in abusive situations. It's a lot of work to care for people with autism (moderate to severe). There is no standard for what they need, their capabilities can be…

Happy Christmas, folks! > please have some humanity about the homeless In the US, the homeless population exploded , in the 1980s, when they closed down all the mental institutions. Before that, there was a far less pervasive homeless population in urban areas. Being "on the spectrum," myself (but highly functional), I can attest to how easy it is for an autistic person's life to go sideways. Many autistic folks have…

Non-neurotypicals can receive bad treatment from neurotypicals. But, it's also a trap to start thinking that neurotypicals are 100% intolerant. The corollary of not knowing when they're offending people, is that they also don't know when they're receiving tolerance - which is actually a lot; although it's understandable that this is not obvious.

Re: We invited a man into our home at Christmas and he stayed with us for 45 years

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Post by exe34 »

fragmede wrote: post #32
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #17

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Happy Christmas, folks! > please have some humanity about the homeless In the US, the homeless population exploded , in the 1980s, when they closed down all the mental institutions. Before that, there was a far less pervasive homeless population in urban areas. Being "on the spectrum," myself (but highly functional), I can attest to how easy it is for an autistic person's life to go sideways. Many autistic folks have…

Thankfully LLMs have ingested enough of human writing that one afflicted in such a way can describe the exact set of circumstances and ask the LLM how they made the other people feel, and figure out why they got expelled from the group this time. It never stops happening for us. I'm 42 now and it's happened twice this past year. But at least now I can figure out what it is I did wrong and how to prevent that from hap…

what did you do wrong?

Re: We invited a man into our home at Christmas and he stayed with us for 45 years

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Post by latexr »

akkad33 wrote: post #4

Ronnie led a rich life. I feel ashamed that my selfish life feels pale in comparison. It's amazing these people did not worry about the extra expense and inconvenience of taking care of another person, with children of their own to take care of.

> I feel ashamed that my selfish life feels pale in comparison.

You’re still alive, thus you still have the chance to live a more selfless life you feel proud of.

> It's amazing these people did not worry about the extra expense and inconvenience of taking care of another person

Seems to me they did worry, but decided to do it anyway.

> with children of their own to take care of.

The children came later, and Ronnie helped to take care of them.

Re: We invited a man into our home at Christmas and he stayed with us for 45 years

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Post by elygre »

fragmede wrote: post #32
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Happy Christmas, folks! > please have some humanity about the homeless In the US, the homeless population exploded , in the 1980s, when they closed down all the mental institutions. Before that, there was a far less pervasive homeless population in urban areas. Being "on the spectrum," myself (but highly functional), I can attest to how easy it is for an autistic person's life to go sideways. Many autistic folks have…

Thankfully LLMs have ingested enough of human writing that one afflicted in such a way can describe the exact set of circumstances and ask the LLM how they made the other people feel, and figure out why they got expelled from the group this time. It never stops happening for us. I'm 42 now and it's happened twice this past year. But at least now I can figure out what it is I did wrong and how to prevent that from hap…

My sympathies. And it’s sad to see you call it “what it is you did wrong”. Thus, also my apologies, for whenever I am on the wrong side of such interactions.
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