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Re: Inca Stone Masonry

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“ spiritual access to directed free-energy at the magnetic equator for dustifying/liquifying” What? These words are English yet carry no meaning to me. Ancient people had clever engineers, just like us. Fuck all to do with magnetic spirituality whatever the fuck that is. Every time there’s a thread about ancient engineering someone insists on this woo or different woo involving aliens. Fucking tired of the arrogance…

sorry, I was tempted to draw a connection between the coincidence of dustified steel recorded during a magnetic disturbance and the locations of megalithic sites, but I’m not committed to their connection. I find it fun to hypothesize but I don’t want to dismiss their achievements.

Re: Inca Stone Masonry

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> We know that the Inca didn't build Sacsayhuaman because they said that they didn't. Where are you getting this from? The Spanish chroniclers report Inca tradition that the 15th century leader Pachacuti initiated the building. The wiki article has a few long excerpts from Pedro Cieza de Leon's Cronicas del Peru, including details of how many labourers were involved and some of the methods for quarrying, transporting…

> Where are you getting this from?

I asked a friend who is knowledgeable about this stuff, but he hasn't provided a source, perhaps he is (and by implication I am) mistaken.

Re: Inca Stone Masonry

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Exceptionaly well documented and written article detailing the well known techniques used to build the iconic stone work in south america. I read an earlier account of a researcher who started investigating pre spanish south american quaries, and how there sudden realisation, while sitting down for lunch, that the round stone to there right, was the hammer used to shape the larger stone to there left and the rows of…

I've often come across a concept in magic performance that what the performer is aiming at is for the only available explanation for what you see would take an amount of effort that you immediately discount because clearly nobody would put that much effort into making a ping pong ball disappear. There are two ways to make the ping pong ball disappear: either the performer is cheating somehow, or they did actually do…

Penn & Teller formulation: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/teller-reveals-h...

Re: Inca Stone Masonry

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This is an incredible writeup. I've visited almost all of these sites to inspect the masonry, spent weeks researching, pestered tour guides and museum workers for oral history, and still I learned things in reading this article. However there is one aspect which I think is incomplete. When you closely inspect the seams of some of the non-layered works like sacsayhuaman, we are talking about 2mm precision along curved…

> the use of rope or string, sand, and water to finely cut stones and gems I haven't heard this one before, that's a great idea. Here's a YouTube video of somebody doing this with jade if anybody is curious: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w_9MCNgY2Ww

This is neat but I could have done without the poor diction, AI voice, and inaccessible subtitles.

Re: Inca Stone Masonry

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We recently visited Peru — Machu Picchu for a week, then Tambopata (the Amazon) for a week. The Amazonians are still proud of the quality of the stone hammers they find and sell to the highlanders; apparently, there's still "old school" stone masons that insist on using "good" Amazonian hammer rocks.

Re: Inca Stone Masonry

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This is an incredible writeup. I've visited almost all of these sites to inspect the masonry, spent weeks researching, pestered tour guides and museum workers for oral history, and still I learned things in reading this article. However there is one aspect which I think is incomplete. When you closely inspect the seams of some of the non-layered works like sacsayhuaman, we are talking about 2mm precision along curved…

I was told that this was, because of the limited tools, very slow work. After seeing the popular twelve-angled stone at Cusco, I can believe they took all the time, and any effort, necessary. Maybe they even assembled and disassembled the stones until they were perfect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve-angled_stone

Re: Inca Stone Masonry

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Pounding stone seems reasonable to me. Obviously I don't have any proof or even strong evidence but I saw a video that changed my perception of what is possible. It showed two old men making a millstone with hand tools: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lscs5ZgNQrE . The amount of labour involved and quality of the finished item was astonishing to me. Maybe you'll think that the hideous amount of labour needed to make…

The video does not counter the parents argument about measuring fit. What the masons in the video do is certainly impressive. Cutting organic shapes that fit perfectly together, as if they once were elastic, is another level. Perhaps the did something similar to what dentists do when building on teeth so that the added material is not the only contract point when jaws are closed. That is, a contact sheet that leaves…

> Perhaps the did something similar to what dentists do when building on teeth so that the added material is not the only contract point when jaws are closed. That is, a contact sheet that leaves contact marks.

The article linked in this post mentions the possibility of „red clay“ being used for this purpose, as well as being a mortar.

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