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Backing up Spotify

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Re: Backing up Spotify

#42

Is the music torrent not up yet? Only see the metadata one here: https://annas-archive.li/torrents/spotify

Yeah, in the article they write:

The data will be released in different stages on our Torrents page:

[X] Metadata (Dec 2025)

[ ] Music files (releasing in order of popularity)

[ ] Additional file metadata (torrent paths and checksums)

[ ] Album art

[ ] .zstdpatch files (to reconstruct original files before we added embedded metadata)

Re: Backing up Spotify

#43

Is the music torrent not up yet? Only see the metadata one here: https://annas-archive.li/torrents/spotify

Yeah, in the article they write: The data will be released in different stages on our Torrents page: [X] Metadata (Dec 2025) [ ] Music files (releasing in order of popularity) [ ] Additional file metadata (torrent paths and checksums) [ ] Album art [ ] .zstdpatch files (to reconstruct original files before we added embedded metadata)

Oh I see, thanks! I missed that

Re: Backing up Spotify

#45

How legal is this with regards to copyright laws?

It's not. It's awful people justifying awful behaviour. And it's why we can't have nice things. There are always assholes ready to exploit others.

Some people's urges to destroy all traces of human civilisation astonish me. What do you think Spotify is going to do with all its music when it ceases to exist in however many years? No, we must collectively feed Daniel Ek the Hungry.

Re: Backing up Spotify

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The thing is, this doesn't even seem particularly useful for average consumers/listeners, since Spotify itself is so convenient, and trying to locate individual tracks in massive torrent files of presumably 10,000's of tracks each sounds horrible. I wouldn’t be so sure. There are already tools to automatically locate and stream pirated TV and movie content automatic and on demand. They’re so common that I had non-t…

> The Anna’s archive group is ideologically motivated. Very interesting, thank you. So using this for AI will just be a side effect. And good point -- yup, can now definitely imagine apps building an interface to search and download. I guess I just wonder how seeding and bandwidth would work for the long tail of tracks rarely accessed, if people are only ever downloading tiny chunks.

I think the people seeding these are also ideologs and so would be interested in also supporting the obscure stuff, maybe more than the popular. There is no way any casual listeners would go to the quite substantial trouble of using these archives.

Anyone who wants to listen to unlimited free music from a vast catalog with a nice interface can use YouTube/Google Music. If they don't like the ads they can get an ad blocker. Downloading to your own machine works well too.

Re: Backing up Spotify

#48
post #7

Incredible. > A while ago, we discovered a way to scrape Spotify at scale. They wont and shouldn’t divulge the details, but I imagine that would be a fun read!

they're probably just using something like https://github.com/nor-dee/spotizerr-spotify

No way, that would take far too long.

Re: Backing up Spotify

#49

How legal is this with regards to copyright laws?

It's not. It's awful people justifying awful behaviour. And it's why we can't have nice things. There are always assholes ready to exploit others.

Monopoly is not a nice thing. Maybe it is convenient, but not nice.

People that gives money to artists are the ones going to concerts and buying music directly to artists. Spotify gives cents to artists, incetivizing awful behaviour (AI music, aggressive marketing, low effort art...).

Re: Backing up Spotify

#50
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody is gonna download a 300TB torrent just to get the latest Taylor Swift album. There are much easier avenues than that. What’s actually scummy is Spotify paying artists $1 per 1000 streams. Buy CDs. Use Bandcamp.

How about we let the individual artists decide?

In most cases, they couldn't make that decision even if they wanted to. Only independent artists and those that are so large as to have enough sway (Niel Young for example) would be able to. The vast majority of artists you probably listen to don't actually own the rights to their own music.

So let the rights holders make the decision? They would never. Music rights exist for them to extract profit above all else. They don't care about preserving culture or legacy. Which is why it's important that somebody does.

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