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All I really learned from this is that European skies have a much higher density of flights than the rest of the world.

If the future of aviation is similar flight densities everywhere then people might actually begin to care about this topic.

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I'm not following the logic why contrails cause net warming. Why nuclear blasts - that also introduce lots of particles in atmosphere cause a cooling effect - "nuclear winter"?

Water vapour absorbs the thermal radiation (heat trying to escape earth) better than it absorbs sunlight (heat trying to enter earth). Therefore, the more water vapour in the atmosphere, the stronger the greenhouse effect. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_absorption_by_... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_effect

In this case I believe it's not water vapor, but rather reflection of IR from ice crystals.

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Two links about "stratospheric aerosol injection" from mainstream sources. "The Advanced Research and Innovation Agency (ARIA) - a government backed body - is funding nearly £60m that could allow real-world experiments, including in the UK. "As part of the Exploring Climate Cooling programme, projects in Solar Radiation Modification (SRM) will involve trying to thicken Arctic sea ice and make clouds more reflective."…

So there are papers. There are studies on tons and tons of things. One of the things you learn really studying science is that there are always papers, and you really have to immerse yourself in a field to see what’s actually happening.

People who believe in chemtrails need to prove that the it’s being done, is being done at industrial scale (not just a few one off experiments), and that this is harmful to human health or the environment.

Ocean fertilization to soak up CO2 has been extensively studied and in that case there are documented experiments, but we are not doing it at scale… mostly because nobody wants to pay for it and because we are not 100% sure the CO2 will actually be sequestered. There’s also some concern about side effects on ocean ecosystems.

A lot of things get studied.

Of course the real conspiracy I keep hearing is that this is some kind of mind control thing. Why? Even if that were possible, why bother when you can mesmerize humans at scale with mindless slop scrollers like TikTok and program them like a zombie army. Much cheaper and done 100% in the open.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

but contrails are not made of soot, where I define soot as dark unburned carbon, contrails actual are made of water. There is also a highly likely chance I am being to literal and the word choice of soot was a bit of poetic license on the part of the author. As a bonus consideration it might be better if they were made of soot, it would be ugly but water vapor is a tremendous greenhouse gas, several times as potent a…

The water is actually ice crystals and the ice crystals form around the soot.

There is also an immense amount of water vapour being produced by the combustion of a hydrocarbon.

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#46
Hi all - very grateful to see this posted here. I'm the director of this project and would be happy to answer questions.

We are seeking a high level full stack engineer to join the team to work on infrastructure for this and other efforts. Please reach out if interested - info@contrails.org

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I found this extremely interesting and enjoyable. I would however recommend testing it on a slower internet connection and a lower end device. Because I was spending 90% of my time in the "loading data" phases, and once the intro was done, the thing ran at one frame per second and I was not able to use it. (I have 5G and I bought my phone last year.)

Thanks for the feedback! We have done all the performance optimization we can in its current manifestation.

We're in the process of refactoring the models that support these visualizations, so we hope to make it more performant in the near future. Hopefully end of this year.

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Hi all - very grateful to see this posted here. I'm the director of this project and would be happy to answer questions. We are seeking a high level full stack engineer to join the team to work on infrastructure for this and other efforts. Please reach out if interested - info@contrails.org

Where are the rocket launches? Surely those are worth measuring as they are a daily occurrence on Earth.

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This group is funded by Orca Sciences, which is also behind Standard Thermal. https://www.orcasciences.com/

That's right! The project started at Orca Sciences back in 2021. We moved to Breakthrough Energy in 2023, and will be spinning out into our own standalone non-profit soon.
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