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AI will kill all the lawyers

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Re: AI will kill all the lawyers

#42
Very much doubt, what you’ll see is it killing off paralegal work.

In most jurisdictions legal advice is a regulated and restricted activity. Qualified lawyers today get themselves into trouble without AI advising on areas they have no right to practice in.

Re: AI will kill all the lawyers

#43

Law has one of the strongest "unions" in the form of the Bar Association, backed by legal force. You cannot practice law without "passing they bar" as they say. The lawyers who operate the Bar can just decide they wont be replaced and then they wont, AI will remain a tool used by human lawyers.

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Re: AI will kill all the lawyers

#44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Allow me to explain a contrarian position. Judges favor individuals that use an expensive lawyer for representation, even if there isn't much of a legal argument to be made. Judges give such individuals a far better deal. The reason for this is that hiring an expensive lawyer shows that you've paid homage to the legal profession with your wallet, that you support the systemic judicial-attorney-penalty complex. It g…

> but this is out-of-touch and silly. Expensive lawyers can get better deals in court even for run-of-the-mill cases. Why is this? Are cheaper lawyers so dumb that they can't even handle common cases?

Cheaper lawyers can’t afford to pay for as many research librarians, paralegals, junior attorneys, writing consultants, jury consultants, etc. LLMs may level the playing field in this regard. But of course, the expensive lawyer might be able to pay for more tokens.

Re: AI will kill all the lawyers

#46
post #20

Just like AI will kill all the software developers... Obviously AI will change the legal industry. But a lawyer will still have an advantage because they know what questions to ask and can provide the AI with the relevant context.

And they know when it’s right and wrong.

Recently I asked Claude if I should convert my LLC to an S Corp for tax savings, and it sang the praises of how much I’d save if I did this.

When asked my accoutant, he pointed out that since I live in NYC, the S corp would be taxed in such a way that would completely wipe out the tax advantage I’d get elsewhere, and I’d likely end up paying more if I did this.

Re: AI will kill all the lawyers

#48
Any pure information-processing profession will be affected - programming, legal, teaching, financial, medical diagnosis, research, writing, videos, movies, music, art, design, architecture, business consulting, marketing, gaming, dating, chat, voice, customer support, real-time monitoring, ...

Any physical world interaction might survive for more time - cooking, goods delivery, transport, construction, medical testing, field work, lab work, class room work, handyman jobs, factory work, farming, mining, fishing, travel & tourism, retail shops, offices, gym, sports, fashion, hardware,..

Re: AI will kill all the lawyers

#49
post #9

> I mention the problem of ‘hallucinations’ – when an AI model presents false or fabricated information as factual – and the need for a human face in court. The Sandie Peggie judgment allegedly contained AI-made errors. He waves this all away. ‘Temporary bugs and sentimental preferences. The economic argument is overwhelming.’ As usual with "AI replacing humans", the key thing to consider here is accountability. I wa…

> I want a lawyer armed with LLMs, who's more effective than the previous generations of lawyers.

From what we've seen thus far, there's a non-zero chance the lawyer armed with LLMs will submit a brief generated by said LLM without reviewing it, which makes the judge none too happy.

Look at how people handle bringing their cell phones with them while driving. Some people won't use it at all. Some will play music (unrelated to driving but overall neutral as long as they aren't fiddling with it). Some will use it for GPS driving assistance (net positive). But, many will irresponsibly use it for texting/talking while driving, which is at least as bad as being inebriated and can lead to harming themselves and others.

Don't expect people to be any more or less responsible with LLMs.

Re: AI will kill all the lawyers

#50
post #18

I think theoretically, it's okay for LLMs to write legal briefs, to replace attorneys. Write the best argument you can with whatever tools you want. What worries me is the idea of them replacing JUDGES.

That is something I hadn’t even considered. That is super scary; Part of me thinks it’s inevitable. People famously lack any sort of empathy for the falsely accused until it happens to them, so why wouldn’t they vote for a “save the children: use AI judges!” bill in 10 years?

”AI” started taking judges jobs at least over ten years ago. See tools like COMPAS.

Read Weapons of Math Destruction.

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