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Windows 11 will ask consent before sharing personal files with AI after outrage

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Re: Windows 11 will ask consent before sharing personal files with AI after outrage

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Post by petterroea »

This happens every tine with Microsoft: * Announces feature implemented in a horrible way * Everyone gets mad * Microsoft cancels the feature or removes features people complain about

I'm sick and tired of listening to it.

Someone in here once wrote that Microsoft must be doing it on purpose - it is similar to the negotiation tactic where you overcharge on purpose so your opponent feels they won something when you settle for less. Surely this is Microsoft's strategy to get you to accept them pushing this garbage on us.

Remember, the AI bubble winner won't be the one that pushes the first polished AI tool. It will be the company that fills most of the market, such that they already have market share by the time they are able to do something useful with it.

Re: Windows 11 will ask consent before sharing personal files with AI after outrage

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Post by andai »

abnercoimbre wrote: post #33
pjmlp wrote: post #32

What about not sharing at all? Oh well, if only we could start having Raspberry PI like mini PCs on consumer stores, instead of places only computer nerds know the location, and magic incantations.

No joke, with the Pi offering a premium [0] desktop these days it's only a matter of product placement. [0] https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/raspberry-pi-500-plus/

They build one that looks like a C64, I'll buy 10.

Re: Windows 11 will ask consent before sharing personal files with AI after outrage

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Post by qwertox »

malfist wrote: post #13
wilkystyle wrote: post #4

"Enable enhanced agentic features for an enriched experience across our operating system!" [ Always Allow ] [ Allow Once ] [ Remind me in 24 hours ]

You forget that clicking X on the modal or otherwise dismissing it assumed the "always allow" selection

Not true because these never have an X so that you are forced to decide immediately. You can also see it in the screenshot.

Re: Windows 11 will ask consent before sharing personal files with AI after outrage

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Post by qwertox »

lIl-IIIl wrote: post #28
stevenjgarner wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft users are now the product being sold

Sold to whom? I understand when people use that phrase about advertising, but I don't see this here.

Indirectly via advertising, this is data gathering for profile building.

Re: Windows 11 will ask consent before sharing personal files with AI after outrage

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Post by kotaKat »

oehpr wrote: post #18
jjpones wrote: post #6

[Not now] and similar "options" will never not irritate me.

Has anyone figured out why so many corps do this? It always feels like it's one step from: * Of course do whatever you want! * Nah I'm a big dumb idiot who doesn't know whats good for him so ask me in 3 days when I've hopefully come to my senses. I think a simple law would fix this If no wasn't an option, you did not establish consent.

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Re: Windows 11 will ask consent before sharing personal files with AI after outrage

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Post by wltr »

wilkystyle wrote: post #4

"Enable enhanced agentic features for an enriched experience across our operating system!" [ Always Allow ] [ Allow Once ] [ Remind me in 24 hours ]

I’d reformulate ‘remind me’ part to ‘force me to decide on this again in 24 hours’

Re: Windows 11 will ask consent before sharing personal files with AI after outrage

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Post by stevenjgarner »

lIl-IIIl wrote: post #28
stevenjgarner wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft users are now the product being sold

Sold to whom? I understand when people use that phrase about advertising, but I don't see this here.

Windows 11 has transitioned from a standalone tool into a digital storefront that prioritizes recurring revenue through aggressive prompts for Microsoft 365 and OneDrive subscriptions. By mandating cloud-based Microsoft Accounts, the OS effectively anchors your identity to a marketing ID, allowing the company to track behavior and monetize your data. The interface now functions as an advertising platform, injecting "recommended" apps and sponsored content directly into the Start menu and search results. Ultimately, this shift means users are no longer just customers of a product, but recurring assets whose attention and telemetry are sold to sustain Microsoft’s ecosystem and maximize shareholder value.

Re: Windows 11 will ask consent before sharing personal files with AI after outrage

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Post by protocolture »

pjmlp wrote: post #37
protocolture wrote: post #11

2026: The year of the linux desktop.

If only, this will only happen when regular consumers can get GNU/Linux desktops and laptops fully working on shops like Media Market, Saturn, FNAC, Dixons, Publico,.... Until then it will be computer nerds buying from online shops, building their own PCs, or running Linux VMs alongside Windows and macOS. Android, ChromeOS, WebOS have succeed among users, exactly because they are consumer OSes, where the use of Linux…

The PC market doesnt care what nerds do. But the PC market has a niche that it does respond financially to, and thats gamers. Gamers have long felt the pull factor of Linux, with games becoming easier to run on the platform. But now Windows has delivered a heap of push factors, with Windows chewing more memory, and that memory being used for intrusive AI tasks.

If market forces respond as they do for gamers, we will be seeing a lot of peripheral manufacturers at least ensuring their devices are covered by a generic driver on Linux, and eventually those gamers will be installing linux on their parents computers to avoid expensive memory upgrades. Games publishers are likely to take notice. And at least small PC retailers will be offering customs without Windows, assuming a couple of the big hardware guys dont start offering it too.

I made the old joke tongue in cheek, but it does have legs tbh. This is basically a perfect storm, that any previous management at Microsoft would have fired half the business to prevent. Focusing on optimisation rather than bloat would be a better strategy. But IIRC the management of Microsoft believe the cloud is the future and were thinking desktop was dead anyway.

The conditions were set in 2025, but 2026 is probably when we will see the greatest amount of switching.

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