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Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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Post by senectus1 »

cebert wrote: post #2

I don’t think Microsoft realizes that this is not a positive for their brand.

they wont take much of a hit on the brand because of this, so they'll make up for that in marketing elsewhere.

this will however give them huge amounts of information... its a loss leader for them.

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Post by hyperadvanced »

dev1ycan wrote: post #36

I recently bought a $250 Zojurishi rice cooker because I wanted quality, durability and no "trade offs" I am going to start buying more and more Japanese electronics if US and South Korean companies keep colluding with each other in inserting garbage. Samsung is already preloading intelligence service software and "365 copilot" into their phones to trick old people into paying for a subscription to open a PDF (it set…

Ironically, Apple stands apart from basically all of these trends. We will see if they profit or perish because of it.

Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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Post by wantlotsofcurry »

I've had an LG tv for a couple years. I was previously able to use LG's THINQ app on my phone like a remote to operate the tv. A couple days ago I went in the app to use the remote and the feature had been totally locked behind the "access local networks & devices" permission... This permission was never needed in the past 3 years yet now it's necessary for the same functionality.

So, I disconnected the TV from the internet, uninstalled the app, and bought an Apple TV 3rd gen. LG TV quality is great but their software is unbearable.

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Post by pabs3 »

I wonder if it is possible to install a standard Linux distro on LG TVs. There is KDE Plasma Bigscreen for a TV-like experience on such distros.

https://plasma-bigscreen.org/

If not, there are some webOS exploits on this wiki page:

https://wiki.debian.org/Exploits

Hopefully the Vizio lawsuit will mean the right to repair software comes to TVs more easily.

https://sfconservancy.org/copyleft-compliance/vizio.html

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Post by jojobas »

pfych wrote: post #35
amanzi wrote: post #33

I have an LG TV purchased about 3 years ago. It had a bunch of "AI" features from day one, but mostly related to improving the picture quality dynamically based on what's on the screen. I disabled all of that stuff, so I guess I'll be disabling this too. The LG software is horrible on this TV. Great picture quality, but I would never recommend an LG TV just because of the software.

It's crazy to read this because I came from a Samsung TV/Display - LG Software is so much better than that! Really wish we'd get dumb displays with these great panels :(

So far nothing prevents you from spending $100 to set up LibreElec on an RPi and leave the TV offline and dumb.

Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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Post by eklavya »

wantlotsofcurry wrote: post #43

I've had an LG tv for a couple years. I was previously able to use LG's THINQ app on my phone like a remote to operate the tv. A couple days ago I went in the app to use the remote and the feature had been totally locked behind the "access local networks & devices" permission... This permission was never needed in the past 3 years yet now it's necessary for the same functionality. So, I disconnected the TV from the i…

I am surprised it wasn't needed till now. This needs a lan connection and definitely will need access to local networks.

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Post by roblabla »

wantlotsofcurry wrote: post #43

I've had an LG tv for a couple years. I was previously able to use LG's THINQ app on my phone like a remote to operate the tv. A couple days ago I went in the app to use the remote and the feature had been totally locked behind the "access local networks & devices" permission... This permission was never needed in the past 3 years yet now it's necessary for the same functionality. So, I disconnected the TV from the i…

Wouldn't it make sense for a remote control to need to access local network & devices? Like, without this permission, the only way the controller would work is through a cloud service, so I would personally be pretty happy to discover the app requests this permission, as it would likely mean the app will keep working when LG inevitably shuts down their cloud server...

Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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Post by sangeeth96 »

For similar reasons many years back when I broke the bank for a G2, I decided to disconnect it forever. Besides the always-on spyware, every update broke something, which is incredibly frustrating considering the amount I spent. For instance, I got a GX soundbar for free with the TV which worked fine for 1–2 months until some update borked it and made it glitch out randomly. To date, none of their updates seem to have fixed it. I now only connect it back to the web — if needed — once a year or so but even this needs plenty of careful research across the web to see if the update package breaks something else I take for granted.

Hooking up an Apple TV 4K to this thing was the best decision I ever made and the sheer performance of this thing puts every TV vendor to shame. I would recommend everyone to do the same if they're already in the Apple ecosystem.

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