Also from this era and loosely related. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oink%27s_Pink_Palace
Good lord, Oink was only around for 4 years? I was one of the earlier signups and it felt more like 10 years.
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2002: Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web
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Re: 2002: Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web
#42When I read the negative take on "it's always somebody else selecting the music for you" I really recoiled. My favorite way to listen to music today is BECAUSE there is someone choosing it for me. I love the human stories behind the music, and it is totally missing with algorithmic stuff. I love Gilles Peterson, and Derek Smith on KMHD, for example, exactly because they are terrific and interesting people and they bring that humanity with their choice of tracks. When they interview people it is so much more interesting as a companion to the music.
My favorite thing about Napster and LimeWire was when you could find a song, and then BROWSE the hard drive of the person hosting that song. It was so interesting to find house music and be digging through the tastes of someone in London. And, then chatting with them, and discovering the live scenes, the people behind the music, etc. I loved that and nothing has ever replaced it.
Having said all this, I am interested in playing with "scrobbling." Anyone have any advice on how to get started? Do you need a music library? Is there a way to import your playlists from YouTube music? I'm not a spotify person.
Re: 2002: Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web
#43I miss the old last.fm. I know it's still there, but it's not the same since CBS took over and made everything rely on youtube or whatever it's doing these days.
Re: 2002: Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tried it out now, pretty nice. Note that apps built from the SDK don't have access to the full history, only up to some cutoff. I tried a couple over the years and wrongly concluded Spotify deleted your history after some time. The data download does contain everything, which was a very pleasant surprise. I didn't think I'd ever see the data from the couple years gap in my last.fm.
Just requested my data. They have noted "Preparation time 30 days" :/ What takes so long?
Discouraging you to do it again.
Re: 2002: Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web
#45When I read the negative take on "it's always somebody else selecting the music for you" I really recoiled. My favorite way to listen to music today is BECAUSE there is someone choosing it for me. I love the human stories behind the music, and it is totally missing with algorithmic stuff. I love Gilles Peterson, and Derek Smith on KMHD, for example, exactly because they are terrific and interesting people and they br…
i used to use last.fm with winamp and the like. that needed scrobbling plugins. nowadays, i use it with spotify, and it's pretty simple: (1) make an account on last.fm. (2) go into spotify settings → social → connected apps, and add it in.
Re: 2002: Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web
#46When I read the negative take on "it's always somebody else selecting the music for you" I really recoiled. My favorite way to listen to music today is BECAUSE there is someone choosing it for me. I love the human stories behind the music, and it is totally missing with algorithmic stuff. I love Gilles Peterson, and Derek Smith on KMHD, for example, exactly because they are terrific and interesting people and they br…
If you use streaming you can link it to lastfm or Listenbrainz(open source alternative). It will automagically scrobble your listening over.
Otherwise you need to find a music player that supports it or has a plugin to add the functionality. I use tauron for scrobbling my local listening.
Re: 2002: Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web
#47Also from this era and loosely related. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oink%27s_Pink_Palace
Good lord, Oink was only around for 4 years? I was one of the earlier signups and it felt more like 10 years.
Maybe because what.cd picked up the torch and carried on for another few years? For me there was some sense of continuity between the two.
Re: 2002: Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web
#48I always thought Apple missed a huge opportunity to build a social network on top of iTunes. See what your friends are listening to, develop communities around shared musical interests, get better recommendations. Sort of like YouTube now.
Funnily enough, I'm trying to do this, and just posted in "What are you Working On?" Not sure I'll have much luck if Apple couldn't make it happen though!
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46268285
Re: 2002: Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web
#49I worked at Last.fm from 2007 to 2012. The MIR team (think: research) developed a wonderful system called "RadioQL", which allowed you to stitch together custom ratio stations from any of a huge host of factors, joined together by AND, OR, and NOT. You could select artist radios, song radios, tags, and so on, but also combine this with things like the BPM or even some sentiment analysis. It was used a little bit inside some public-facing radio stations, but nobody outside of the staff ever got full access, and that's a tragedy as it was glorious.
Re: 2002: Last.fm and Audioscrobbler Herald the Social Web
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Sep 23, 2004 here! 285k scrobbles. Always been a loyal user. My use goes back far enough that I would have scrobbles queued up for when my dialup connection came online to push the days’ missed scrobbles up.
Jun 8th ‘07, 535,618k scrobbles. My usage went way up once I was able to properly scrobble listens played via my hifi.
scrobbling since 10 Mar 2006 with 179,105 scrobbles.