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Re: Recovering Anthony Bourdain's Li.st's

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At the risk of being downvoted… for the uninitiated among us, what’s interesting about these or the person? I understand he was a chef and had several TV shows. Is it just celebrity fascination?

He was a super hipster who pretended to be an anti-hipster.

This combination allowed him to make people feel like they were getting let in a little secret and were now part of a club that was better than everyone else.

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He was the last cultured dude before tech made everyone into a superficial arrogant lmgtfy'er, disinterested in true discovery. (Heap your downvotes on me HN, I've seen what makes you cheer!) MY BOURDAIN LI.ST: 1) Masculinity without cringe: Tough, profane, credentialed through actual kitchen labor (not culinary school pedigree), but also emotionally literate, openly vulnerable, willing to cry on camera. He modeled a…

> He was the last cultured dude before tech made everyone into a I enjoyed Bourdain, but this level of hero worship is really excessive. Not to mention antithetical to much of what Bourdain stood for. He was enjoyable to read and watch, but claiming he "made it acceptable" for men to care about food, travel or culture is weird. He was an entertainer. An interesting guy. A great storyteller who lived an interesting li…

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Re: Recovering Anthony Bourdain's Li.st's

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He was the last cultured dude before tech made everyone into a superficial arrogant lmgtfy'er, disinterested in true discovery. (Heap your downvotes on me HN, I've seen what makes you cheer!) MY BOURDAIN LI.ST: 1) Masculinity without cringe: Tough, profane, credentialed through actual kitchen labor (not culinary school pedigree), but also emotionally literate, openly vulnerable, willing to cry on camera. He modeled a…

> He was the last cultured dude before tech made everyone into a I enjoyed Bourdain, but this level of hero worship is really excessive. Not to mention antithetical to much of what Bourdain stood for. He was enjoyable to read and watch, but claiming he "made it acceptable" for men to care about food, travel or culture is weird. He was an entertainer. An interesting guy. A great storyteller who lived an interesting li…

You'd think otherwise if you ever had the steak frites at Les Halles.

Re: Recovering Anthony Bourdain's Li.st's

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What a privilege to not know depression.

You assume too much

You might assume you have known depression, but you would not speak such cruelties had you truly experienced the depths of sadness that a human being is capable of feeling.

Re: Recovering Anthony Bourdain's Li.st's

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He was the last cultured dude before tech made everyone into a superficial arrogant lmgtfy'er, disinterested in true discovery. (Heap your downvotes on me HN, I've seen what makes you cheer!) MY BOURDAIN LI.ST: 1) Masculinity without cringe: Tough, profane, credentialed through actual kitchen labor (not culinary school pedigree), but also emotionally literate, openly vulnerable, willing to cry on camera. He modeled a…

> 6) Tragic: Suicide landed hard because many recognized something in him of themselves in him. I would like to put it out there that his depression or whatever mental illness he had was on full display the whole time, and this probably resonated with people as well. A couple years back I started re-watching all of his shows, start to finish, after watching Roadrunner . Especially the early seasons, there was rarely…

Bourdain actually joked about killing himself in the exact manner and location in, which he did. When I heard it happened, my wife and I both recalled the same times he'd mentioned it. It wasn't a surprise really.

Bourdain had been referencing Hunter S Thompson and the way he went out for years. He'd also repeatedly mentioned wanting to go out in southern France after a great day. Bourdain generally had the same "vibe" as Thompson as well. Here's Thompson's last note to his wife:

> No More Games. No More Bombs. No More Walking. No More Fun. No More Swimming. 67. That is 17 years past 50. 17 more than I needed or wanted. Boring. I am always bitchy. No Fun—for anybody. 67. You are getting Greedy. Act your old age. Relax — This won't hurt.

To me, it wasn't a surprise at all. My wife and I even had discussed when we thought it would happen. The main thing about Bourdain was that people could relate to him and he wrote excellent prose. He seemed authentic and he went out on his terms, which is what he wanted and was the way he lived.

Re: Recovering Anthony Bourdain's Li.st's

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I know we shouldn’t be discussing website design, but using light grey font on a white background is not only ugly, it is basically illegible for anyone with oldster eyes.

I thought the same thing but noticed my dark mode extension changed the dark gray font into light gray. It looks fine to me with that extension turned off. Not sure if that happened to you.

Re: Recovering Anthony Bourdain's Li.st's

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At the risk of being downvoted… for the uninitiated among us, what’s interesting about these or the person? I understand he was a chef and had several TV shows. Is it just celebrity fascination?

He was the last cultured dude before tech made everyone into a superficial arrogant lmgtfy'er, disinterested in true discovery. (Heap your downvotes on me HN, I've seen what makes you cheer!) MY BOURDAIN LI.ST: 1) Masculinity without cringe: Tough, profane, credentialed through actual kitchen labor (not culinary school pedigree), but also emotionally literate, openly vulnerable, willing to cry on camera. He modeled a…

Your list is spot on.

An interesting question is whether any of this is good and worthy of emulation. I've been treating Bourdain as an cautionary tale and a reminder to check one's own priorities rigorously.

I asked google if he was religious, and got this: "He grew up in a home where God, sin, or damnation were never mentioned, leading to a lack of religious upbringing and belief, focusing instead on food, travel, and human connection."

And I think that's kinda the issue. The elevation of food and travel to the status anywhere on the same plain as deep religion (which I do think was the case here) is not going to lead one to good places.

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