LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted • Hacker News Board

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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Post by pier25 » Sat, Dec 13, 2025, 4:36 PM UTC

Gualdrapo wrote: post #24

bromuro wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have poor eyesight and I don’t support this practice of linking old reddit on HN. Old website is unusable for me. I have to load the link in the native app to read it. ctrl+F doesn’t work anyway as the comments are also buried in a “load more comments” on old reddit too. New website and app have a search comments field.

I agree. I joined reddit when the "new" design was launched - I could never made sense of the old design. Way too cluttered and unreadable.

I wonder how you're using HN then

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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Post by caxco93 » Sat, Dec 13, 2025, 4:36 PM UTC

Neywiny wrote: post #2

As a proud member of the LGTV community (yes I'm making 2 of those kinds of jokes back to back, fight me), and an occasional reddit user, I'm both horrified by the notion of getting this update and thrilled people are still using old.reddit.com. The new layout, which isn't even new anymore, still falls very short for it I'm looking something up and it's buried in a comment thread where ctrl-f can't find it.

actually, when you share a reddit link, HN automatically converts it to old.reddit

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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Post by 3RTB297 » Sat, Dec 13, 2025, 4:36 PM UTC

Neywiny wrote: post #2

As a proud member of the LGTV community (yes I'm making 2 of those kinds of jokes back to back, fight me), and an occasional reddit user, I'm both horrified by the notion of getting this update and thrilled people are still using old.reddit.com. The new layout, which isn't even new anymore, still falls very short for it I'm looking something up and it's buried in a comment thread where ctrl-f can't find it.

I only use old.reddit.com when I am forced to sulk back over there and actually log in. To just look around I just use some redlib frontend.

The numerous layers of attempted monetization schemes since 2016ish hilariously touted as "features" are sort of band-aided on top of each other on new reddit in a way that makes it the worst possible way to display the information. It's like a terrible UI challenge.

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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Post by jmclnx » Sat, Dec 13, 2025, 4:37 PM UTC

pndy wrote: post #15

One user mentions that LG also enabled content-aware data mining: https://old.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/1plldqo/...

I really use to like LG products, but between your link and this, I will never buy LG again. They were added to the same list Samsung was added to years ago.

It is like these companies do not want to sell what people really want, but only want to spy on you. The way things are going, it will be back to the old crt TVs, which you can still find used if you look hard enough.

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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Post by hughes » Sat, Dec 13, 2025, 4:38 PM UTC

Why anyone would allow their TV to connect to the internet is beyond me.

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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Post by jwr » Sat, Dec 13, 2025, 4:38 PM UTC

As a reminder, turn off the "Live Plus" thing on your LG TV. This "option" makes your LG TV spy on you, tracking and reporting what you watch based on the image that is shown on the TV.

You need to go to Settings -> All Settings -> General -> System -> Additional Settings to make sure the "Live Plus" option is OFF.

Check it periodically, as it sometimes turns itself back on again after updates.

The enshittification of our world is beyond words.

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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Post by Mountain_Skies » Sat, Dec 13, 2025, 4:38 PM UTC

These are domain block rules I got from a previous HN thread about LG shenanigans. No idea if it is still up to date.

   ngfts.lge.com  

    us.ad.lgsmartad.com  

    lgad.cjpowercast.com  

    us.info.lgsmartad.com  

    aic.recommend.lgtvcommon.com  

    aic.homeprv.lgtvcommon.com  

    aid.rdl.lgtvcommon.com  

    aic.lgshopsvc.lgappstv.com  

    ^aic.*lg.*  

    us.emp.lgsmartplatform.com  

    snu.lge.com  

    us.lgrecommends.lgappstv.com  

    api.thetake.com  

    us.lgtvsdp.com  

    aic.service.lgtvcommon.com  

    lgtvonline.lge.com  

    (\.|^)gracenote\.com$  

    (\.|^)prehook\.com$  

    raw.vidyard.com  

    (\.|^)vidyard\.com$  

    (\.|^)wistia\.com$

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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Post by boredatoms » Sat, Dec 13, 2025, 4:38 PM UTC

jitl wrote: post #29

We need a Framework-style company making TVs. Get the OLED panels from whoever makes them wholesale, spend on a beautiful enclosure / design, add just enough software to calibrate the image and switch between HDMI inputs with HDMI-CEC. Sell a premium soundbar as an add-on instead of including speakers in the base device. I think a brand like Sonos could make a killing in this market selling a premium dumb tv to high…

Maybe framework will pivot given RAM prices these days

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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Post by pmontra » Sat, Dec 13, 2025, 4:38 PM UTC

I use a tablet as smart TV. As a bonus it's portable around my house. I'll look into Linux tablets when Android will get too obnoxious to bear. Are they a thing? Basically I need VLC and not much more.

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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Post by tempest_ » Sat, Dec 13, 2025, 4:38 PM UTC

LeonM wrote: post #25

some-guy wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am actually surprised at how well our second TV (Samsung) still looks [0] after 17 years. We inherited from my sister who bought it for some ridiculous amount of cash for the time. It’s heavy and runs hot, but doesn’t look any worse than cheap TVs of the same size today. [0] https://www.cnet.com/tech/tech-industry/samsung-touches-lcds...

I bought the top of the line TV from Samsung in 2011. The 'smart' functionality services went offline after a year or two, which means all 'smart' functions no longer work and I am now happily using it as a dumb TV. Eventually every smart TV becomes dumb when they inevitably shut down the backend services.

In 2011 smart tvs / phones were not quite the data harvesting devices they have become.

The things stopped working because they were for you the consumer.

The modern smart tv will keep working as long is its piping data back to the data retailers, they have a vested interest in keeping it going.