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YouTube's CEO limits his kids' social media use – other tech bosses do the same

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Post by concinds »

rightbyte wrote: post #37
concinds wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But some have a hard time doing it since it is a great babysitter. We should be clearer on what it means. An iPad will satisfy their need for stimulation but not their developmental emotional and social needs, nor their fine motor skills and executive functioning skills (and it likely harms the latter two, unlike old-school toys). Boredom and non-excessive stimulation levels are essential to letting the child’s inn…

> We should be clearer on what it means. In this occurrence I mean "distract the kids with something such that they don't hurt them self, fight or destroy stuff so the parent can do X" such as doing the disches or resting. Not like, great at raising the kids in some moral sense. In which YT etc is terrible. I cheat on fancy restaurants and might hand the kids some screen (not YT) to give us a chance to finnish the me…

Harm is a spectrum, but being able to sit still, and not harm yourself and destroy things, is a skill kids need to learn and using an iPad for that can stunt their growth.

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Post by oersted »

colechristensen wrote: post #32
mattgreenrocks wrote: post #4

All ages benefit from time-limited exposure to social media. We have a term for it now: brainrot. Fully convinced it is the cigarettes of our generation: ubiquitous enough to be pervasive despite negative externalities.

"brainrot" is not used that way https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=brainrot The best definition I see is > the crippling addiction to low effort content But also have seen it used plenty to refer to the low effort content itself Brainrot is a small portion of social media

I have seen it used plenty by younger people even in a positive sense as a genre label for the aesthetics and humor of their generation.

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Post by Thorrez »

Pooge wrote: post #23
pj_mukh wrote: post #6

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Their point is that despite being the designers of such systems, they prevent their own children from using them. Akin to a drug dealer not consuming what he sells.

>“We do limit their time on YouTube and other platforms and other forms of media. On weekdays we tend to be more strict, on weekends we tend to be less so. We’re not perfect by any stretch,”

>He stressed “everything in moderation” is what works best for him and his wife, and that extends to other online services and platforms.

>YouTube’s former CEO Susan Wojcicki, also barred her children from browsing videos on the app, unless they were using YouTube Kids. She also limited the amount of time they spent on the platform.

So they're not completely banning their kids from using YouTube. The current YouTube CEO uses a time limit. The previous YouTube CEO uses a time limit and limits usage to the YouTube Kids app.

Disclosure: I work at Google but not on YouTube.

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Post by concinds »

pj_mukh wrote: post #6

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You’re the one bringing the conversation back to superficials (blaming society and stuff you have no control over) instead of digging deeper. You don’t need to be rich or stay-at-home to talk to your kids or read books to them, which an increasing fraction of parents don’t do. Restricting tech use is common-sense and free. Books are cheaper than an iPad for each kid.

I’m from Europe. We have early childcare. Kindergarten teachers (I don’t know if that’s the right term) are still seeing obvious issues with screens and really neglected kids that the parents barely interact with. Don’t try to reduce everything issue down to one, the world can face multiple issues simultaneously. So can we talk about tech addiction in kids and parents without changing the topic to a different one?

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Post by Thorrez »

mattgreenrocks wrote: post #4

All ages benefit from time-limited exposure to social media. We have a term for it now: brainrot. Fully convinced it is the cigarettes of our generation: ubiquitous enough to be pervasive despite negative externalities.

>All ages benefit from time-limited exposure to social media.

As compared to what? To no exposure? Or to unlimited exposure?

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Post by hamburglar »

adverbly wrote: post #15

This has been the case for a while. Look up Waldorf schools. Screen free.

Careful. Waldorf schools have some great ideas but they’re also rife with crackpottery and are somewhat cult-like in many ways.

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

websiteapi wrote: post #22

It’s not just about limiting - why don’t these people make it easier on the apps themselves to do it? We know why.

It’s more convenient to use Apple’s parental control feature because you can set limits in one place.

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

politelemon wrote: post #14
concinds wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But some have a hard time doing it since it is a great babysitter. We should be clearer on what it means. An iPad will satisfy their need for stimulation but not their developmental emotional and social needs, nor their fine motor skills and executive functioning skills (and it likely harms the latter two, unlike old-school toys). Boredom and non-excessive stimulation levels are essential to letting the child’s inn…

It's worse, iPads don't satisfy the simulation but instead create a harmful dependency on it. I'll go as far to say that giving young kids iPads is a form of abuse that doesn't get called out.

iPads are so easy to lockdown though, Apple did a good job on their parental controls. Roblox is the main brain stealer these days with a horrible social component, we only give our kid an hour a week now and even Thats probably too much.

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concinds wrote: post #44
pj_mukh wrote: post #6

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You’re the one bringing the conversation back to superficials (blaming society and stuff you have no control over) instead of digging deeper. You don’t need to be rich or stay-at-home to talk to your kids or read books to them, which an increasing fraction of parents don’t do. Restricting tech use is common-sense and free. Books are cheaper than an iPad for each kid. I’m from Europe. We have early childcare. Kinderga…

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Post by dredmorbius »

mikeodds wrote: post #17

I don’t think this idea is that controversial? Most (?) people would agree watching YouTube 16 hrs a day is bad, but agree there is also a benefit to some of the content available.

It's almost as if ... being able to download specific content for offline viewing ... might be a far preferable option in terms of selection, control, and not getting sucked into an algorithmic wormhole.
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