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Meta's new A.I. superstars are chafing against the rest of the company

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Re: Meta's new A.I. superstars are chafing against the rest of the company

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Post by BoorishBears »

twodave wrote: post #38
game_the0ry wrote: post #32

With the exception of instagram fb marketplace, meta just looks and feels like a chaotic, sloppy mess of a company. Between the incoherent and buggy garbage that is ads manager (something I have used for my own business) and zuck saying he laid off poor performers (effectively screwing those people for no reason), it all looks like poor business operations. So its no surprise they can't figure out AI even with all th…

> zuck saying he laid off poor performers (effectively screwing those people for no reason) Were they not actually performing poorly, then? Maybe I'm missing some context, but laying off poor performers is a good thing last I checked. It's identifying them that's difficult the further removed you are from the action (or lack thereof).

You're replying to someone (rightfully) pointing out that you can layoff poor performers without proclaiming it with one of the farthest reaching voices in the industry.

Anyone who's worked in a large org knows there's absolutely zero chance that those layoffs don't touch a single bystander or special case.

Re: Meta's new A.I. superstars are chafing against the rest of the company

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Post by dylan604 »

zeroonetwothree wrote: post #28
jeromegv wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's basically Mastodon. The infrastructure is paid by its owner and often relies on donations from their users.

Is Mastodon a business?

Seems like Mastadon is just the Kitchen Aid of socials. Anyone can have their product(s), but not everyone can use them the same way. Those that use them better stand out from the rest to the point others might just stop using and the product just takes up space

Re: Meta's new A.I. superstars are chafing against the rest of the company

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Post by gowld »

yieldcrv wrote: post #40
bgwalter wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like DOGE, a resounding success!

yes, exactly like DOGE, even named a such within some orgs Lots of siloed processes tied together in a simple way neglected for decades solely because the political capital and will didn’t exist

Which orgs?

Re: Meta's new A.I. superstars are chafing against the rest of the company

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Post by paulbjensen »

andy99 wrote: post #4

That team, called TBD Lab (for “to be determined”), was placed in a siloed space next to Mr. Zuckerberg’s office at the center of Meta’s Silicon Valley headquarters, surrounded by glass panels and sequoia trees. Hooli XYZ? Silicon Valley was over 10 years ago and it seems to have aged pretty well. I wonder if this is going to be like “Yes Minister” that is close to 50 and still completely on point.

HBO's Silicon Valley was on point - they did their homework on nailing some of the absurdities of the industry.

Re: Meta's new A.I. superstars are chafing against the rest of the company

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Post by darkwater »

lvl155 wrote: post #39
game_the0ry wrote: post #32

With the exception of instagram fb marketplace, meta just looks and feels like a chaotic, sloppy mess of a company. Between the incoherent and buggy garbage that is ads manager (something I have used for my own business) and zuck saying he laid off poor performers (effectively screwing those people for no reason), it all looks like poor business operations. So its no surprise they can't figure out AI even with all th…

I refuse to believe that companies are allocating major ad spend to Facebook in 2025. Instagram, yes.

Why do companies allocate ad spend on regular TV channels in 2025? There is still a big cohort of people (45-70) totally hooked on Facebook.

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Post by dylan604 »

Y-bar wrote: post #26
elzbardico wrote: post #22

Mr Z. pays engineers well, that's what counts in my book, I like Mr. Z.

Doctors and chemists were paid handsomely by Marlboro Tobacco and Philip Morris. Didn’t make me like the C-suite at those companies any better.

You must not have been one of those doctors or chemists.

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Post by chihuahua »

twodave wrote: post #38
game_the0ry wrote: post #32

With the exception of instagram fb marketplace, meta just looks and feels like a chaotic, sloppy mess of a company. Between the incoherent and buggy garbage that is ads manager (something I have used for my own business) and zuck saying he laid off poor performers (effectively screwing those people for no reason), it all looks like poor business operations. So its no surprise they can't figure out AI even with all th…

> zuck saying he laid off poor performers (effectively screwing those people for no reason) Were they not actually performing poorly, then? Maybe I'm missing some context, but laying off poor performers is a good thing last I checked. It's identifying them that's difficult the further removed you are from the action (or lack thereof).

From what I heard, Eric Lippert was one of the layoff victims. I find it unlikely that he was actually a poor performer, since he's an industry legend.

Re: Meta's new A.I. superstars are chafing against the rest of the company

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Post by setgree »

I'm as ready to hate on Meta as anyone but this article is a bit of a nothingburger.

So there are disagreements about resource allocation among staff. That's normal and healthy. The CEO's job is to resolve those disagreements and it sounds like Zuck is doing it. The suggestion to train Meta's products on Instagram and Facebook data was perfectly reasonable from the POV of the needs of Cox's teams. You'd want your skip-level to advocate for you the same way. It was also fine for AW to push back.

>. On Thursday, Mr. Wang plans to host his annual A.I. holiday party in San Francisco with Elad Gil, a start-up investor...It’s unclear if any top Meta executives were invited.

Egads, they _might_ not get invited to a 28-year-old's holiday party? However will they recover??

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