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JetBrains cancels Fleet

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Re: JetBrains cancels Fleet

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Post by torben-friis »

donmcronald wrote: post #29
domano wrote: post #12

Last week i cancelled my Jetbrains sub after a decade of daily driving it. I just cant take the performance issues anymore. Across 5 different machines all kinds of actions would just take ages and it got worse every year. Moving to Apple Silicon made it bearable for a few months but somehow Jetbrains manages to get slow even on a M3 Max with 36GB RAM. Ive been fiddling with configs for years, i tried everything sinc…

> Last week i cancelled my Jetbrains sub after a decade of daily driving it. I’ve been paying for a personal license for about 20 years and I’ve been thinking of dropping it. I don’t use it much, but I wanted access to something that I could use offline. I’m not sure that’s possible at this point, so the main appeal is kind of gone for me. I frequently choose “lesser” tools if it means I’m guaranteed they’ll run offl…

What kind of offline degradation are you thinking of?

Other than the case you mention (paid service asking for license check) I can’t think of any limitation. Vs code, neovim, zed, eMacs, they should all work. Obviously if you need to clone a repo or download dependencies you need a connection but other than that…

Re: JetBrains cancels Fleet

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Post by ianberdin »

Interesting how much churn did they have because of Cursor?

Personally I thought I would never switch from Pycharm/Webstorm after 12 years of using. 1 day and no way to go back. Insane.

I saw they implemented custom AI model and it was useless compared to frontier models. The moment is lost. I hope they will catch up and show who is the king.

Re: JetBrains cancels Fleet

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Post by another_twist »

domano wrote: post #12

Last week i cancelled my Jetbrains sub after a decade of daily driving it. I just cant take the performance issues anymore. Across 5 different machines all kinds of actions would just take ages and it got worse every year. Moving to Apple Silicon made it bearable for a few months but somehow Jetbrains manages to get slow even on a M3 Max with 36GB RAM. Ive been fiddling with configs for years, i tried everything sinc…

I use it for Java. I have never used anything else and never had any performance issues on my 16GB MacBook Air.

If its Webstorm maybe its because of automatic refresh capability ? I've had perf issues with VSCode as well with autobuild enabled. Autocomplete would grind to a halt.

Re: JetBrains cancels Fleet

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Post by another_twist »

indemnity wrote: post #31
domano wrote: post #12

Last week i cancelled my Jetbrains sub after a decade of daily driving it. I just cant take the performance issues anymore. Across 5 different machines all kinds of actions would just take ages and it got worse every year. Moving to Apple Silicon made it bearable for a few months but somehow Jetbrains manages to get slow even on a M3 Max with 36GB RAM. Ive been fiddling with configs for years, i tried everything sinc…

I also cancelled my All Products subscription a while ago. I have been an IntelliJ user since the early 2000s and gave up after in 2025, it would still forget how a Maven project with some generated files should be built, with everything turning to a sea of red until you reimported the project and redid all your settings again. Job #1. There was always a regression like this in every new build, along with the perform…

Never ran into this. This seems odd, I use the 2025 build and it works just fine for me. With maven and gradle.

Re: JetBrains cancels Fleet

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Post by ffsm8 »

A few days ago I found out that the jetbrains toolbox doesn't actually log you out when you're logging out - they just seemingly stop renewing your token

I found out about it because switching accounts isn't possible, you get logged into your old account unless some time has elapses.

Not a big security issue though, I mean after a day or so it it's actually logged out, just not within the same hour (no idea how long it actually takes - just know it's not within an hour)

Re: JetBrains cancels Fleet

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Post by closeparen »

guitcastro wrote: post #2

Fleet started as our attempt to explore a new generation of JetBrains IDEs, developed in parallel with those based on the IntelliJ Platform. Over time, we learned that having two general-purpose IDE families created confusion and diluted our focus. Rebuilding the full capabilities of IntelliJ-based IDEs inside Fleet did not create enough value, and positioning Fleet as yet another editor did not justify maintaining t…

Please make remote development work well in the IntelliJ-based IDEs. It's very difficult to get corporate employers to continue supporting their toolchains locally when VSCode Remote is "good enough" and disposable cloud VMs are so much easier to support/secure/manage/scale.

The development experience in IntelliJ-family IDEs is incomparably superior, but you have got to figure out how to run the code indexing on the remote server and the UI locally. This quasi VNC thing isn't it.

Re: JetBrains cancels Fleet

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Post by ojhughes »

domano wrote: post #35
rickette wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? I'm daily driving JetBrains IDEs on Apple M3 and don't recognize any if this. Just give it a bunch of extra heap memory (eg 4g instead if 1gb) and it's fast!

I have given it up to 30GB of heap and i tried many different GC configs, i even ran it and my project on ramdisk. The issue is related to using a monorepo with lots of code in different languages - openening single folders is fine. Ut i want to be able to work on dozens of services in a single window, all other editors manage just fine

I have a similar problem, large monorepo, things have become really bad lately to the point that the cursor is unresponsive. The only workaround I have found is opening each folder of the monorepo in its own IDE instance

Re: JetBrains cancels Fleet

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Post by georgeburdell »

domano wrote: post #12

Last week i cancelled my Jetbrains sub after a decade of daily driving it. I just cant take the performance issues anymore. Across 5 different machines all kinds of actions would just take ages and it got worse every year. Moving to Apple Silicon made it bearable for a few months but somehow Jetbrains manages to get slow even on a M3 Max with 36GB RAM. Ive been fiddling with configs for years, i tried everything sinc…

I have 48GB RAM on my M4 laptop and get tons of freezing. I had to set the memory heap size to 64GB to reduce it, and I still have to force close once per day
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