GrapheneOS is the only Android OS providing full security patches

Post by SubiculumCode » Sat, Dec 06, 2025, 6:37 PM UTC

cons0le wrote: post #38

SubiculumCode wrote: post #11

Why was it that in the early PC days, IBM was unable to keep a lid on 'IBM compatible', allowing for the PC interoperability explosion, yet today, almost every phone has closed drivers, closed and locked bootloaders, and almost complete corporate control over our devices? Why are there not yet a plethora of phones on the market that allow anyone to install their OS of choice?

You're getting a lot of indirect responses. If you've ever tried to mod your android phone the answer is simple. Its google play services and hardware attestation for things like banking websites. Its really easy to make a custom rom but hard to do serious "real life" stuff; companies don't want to make it easy. To most regular users, if they cant download apps from the google play store, and they can't use venmo\cas…

Post by Kuraj » Sat, Dec 06, 2025, 6:40 PM UTC

axelthegerman wrote: post #21

walterbell wrote: post #4

https://tbot.substack.com/p/grapheneos-new-oem-partnership > GrapheneOS has officially confirmed a major new hardware partnership—one that marks the end of its long-standing Pixel exclusivity. According to the team, work with a major Android OEM began in June and is now moving toward the development of a next-generation smartphone built to meet GrapheneOS’ strict privacy and security standards.

Oh that's one of the best news in the smartphone world in a long time. It's impossible to escape the Apple/Google duopoly but at least GrapheneOS makes the most out of Android regarding privacy. I still wish we could get some kind of low resource, stable and mature Android clone instead of Google needlessly increasing complexity but this will over time break app compatibility (Google will make sure of it) Edit: I do…

Post by nextos » Sat, Dec 06, 2025, 6:40 PM UTC

akyuu wrote: post #16

jMyles wrote: post #14

Obviously this situation can't go on. If neither of the two major players can make an open, secure, _simple_, easy-to-understand, bloat-free OS, then we somehow need another player. Presently (and I confess, my bias to seek non-state solutions may show here), it seems that a non-trivial part of the duopoly stems from regulatory capture insofar as the duopoly isn't merely software, but extends all the way to TSMC and…

Take a look at Jolla and Sailfish OS. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46162368 https://sailfishos.org

Post by frogperson » Sat, Dec 06, 2025, 6:47 PM UTC

akyuu wrote: post #16

jMyles wrote: post #14

Obviously this situation can't go on. If neither of the two major players can make an open, secure, _simple_, easy-to-understand, bloat-free OS, then we somehow need another player. Presently (and I confess, my bias to seek non-state solutions may show here), it seems that a non-trivial part of the duopoly stems from regulatory capture insofar as the duopoly isn't merely software, but extends all the way to TSMC and…

Take a look at Jolla and Sailfish OS. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46162368 https://sailfishos.org

Post by Klonoar » Sat, Dec 06, 2025, 6:49 PM UTC

Kuraj wrote: post #43

axelthegerman wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh that's one of the best news in the smartphone world in a long time. It's impossible to escape the Apple/Google duopoly but at least GrapheneOS makes the most out of Android regarding privacy. I still wish we could get some kind of low resource, stable and mature Android clone instead of Google needlessly increasing complexity but this will over time break app compatibility (Google will make sure of it) Edit: I do…

You might also be interested in Jolla Phone https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46162368