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1D Conway's Life glider found, 3.7B cells long

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Re: 1D Conway's Life glider found, 3.7B cells long

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post #19

Can someone please ELI5 what this means? Thanks in advance.

Someone figured out how to create a glider that starts and ends as a long string of cells on a single line. Gliders are figures in the game of life that move themselves in a direction by repeated patterns that result in movement. For more game of life/glider context you can read the pretty decent Wikipedia articles: Conway's game of life: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway%27s_Game_of_Life Gliders: https://en.wikip…

spaceship*

glider is one specific spaceship, but name for moving patterns is spaceship

Re: 1D Conway's Life glider found, 3.7B cells long

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post #19

Can someone please ELI5 what this means? Thanks in advance.

Someone figured out how to create a glider that starts and ends as a long string of cells on a single line. Gliders are figures in the game of life that move themselves in a direction by repeated patterns that result in movement. For more game of life/glider context you can read the pretty decent Wikipedia articles: Conway's game of life: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway%27s_Game_of_Life Gliders: https://en.wikip…

As noted by others, the title is mistaken; this is a spaceship, not a glider. (As explained in the Wikipedia article, "glider" refers to a specific 5-cell pattern discovered very early on.)

> So finally 2/133076755768 ship of starting bounding box 3707300605x1 is here

My understanding is that 2/133076755768 is the speed, in (number of cells translated) / (number of generations to repeat).

Re: 1D Conway's Life glider found, 3.7B cells long

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So it starts as a line, explodes into a huge 2D complex mess, and eventually, after many generation, returns to form the same 3.7B cells long line? That's kind of amazing. I wish someone unpacked the units of abstraction/compilation that must surely exist here. Surely they aren't developing this with 1 or 0 as the abstraction level!

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> I asked AI to explain it to me,

We all know how to do that, but that's not why were here.

Re: 1D Conway's Life glider found, 3.7B cells long

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So it starts as a line, explodes into a huge 2D complex mess, and eventually, after many generation, returns to form the same 3.7B cells long line? That's kind of amazing. I wish someone unpacked the units of abstraction/compilation that must surely exist here. Surely they aren't developing this with 1 or 0 as the abstraction level!

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I’m not sure where our guidelines/norms are on this kind of thing, but I get the sense that most of us feel very capable of pasting articles into LLMs ourselves.

What we’re less capable of—and the reason we look to each other here instead—is distinguishing where the LLM’s errors or misinterpretations lie. The gross mistakes are often easy enough to spot, but the subtle misstatements get masked by its overconfidence.

Luckily for us, a lot of the same people actually doing the work on the stuff we care about tend to hang out around here. And often, they’re kind enough to duck in and share.

Thank you in any case for being upfront about it. It’s just that it’d be a shame and a real loss if the slop noise came to drown out the signal here.

Re: 1D Conway's Life glider found, 3.7B cells long

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Me: oh cool, this is interesting, I don’t quite understand what exactly that means, let me read the thread to learn more… The thread: > Replacing ECCA1 by version with step after the direction change could save something like 1% of the ecca1 bits size. Compiling agnosticized program instead of fixed lane program by ecca1 could save something like 1% as well (just guesses). Build of smaller ECCA1 would shorten binary…

That's because it's not "game of life jargon", it's "cellular automata" jargon. Which is a field of math and comes along with a bunch of math jargon from related fields.

mmmh I don't think so. I've read several papers on cellular automata and I don't recognize the terms

Re: 1D Conway's Life glider found, 3.7B cells long

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Two of the most fascinating open questions about the Game of Life are in my opinion:

1. What is the behavior of Conway's Game of Life when the initial position is random? Paraphrasing Boris Bukh's comment on the post linked below, the Game of Life supports self-replication and is Turing-complete, and therefore can support arbitrarily intelligent programs. So, will a random initial position (tend to) be filled with super-intelligent life forms, or will the chaos reign?

There exist uncountably infinitely many particular initial configurations out of which a random one may be drawn, which makes this more difficult (a particular infinite grid configuration can be represented as the binary digits (fractional part) of a real number, spiraling outwards from a given center coordinate cell: 0.0000... represents an empty infinite grid, 0.1111... a fully alive infinite grid).

https://mathoverflow.net/questions/132402/conways-game-of-li...

2. Relatedly, does a superstable configuration exist? One that continues to exist despite any possible external interference pattern on its border? Perhaps even an expanding one?

https://mathoverflow.net/questions/132687/is-there-any-super...

Re: 1D Conway's Life glider found, 3.7B cells long

#49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It only starts out 1-dimensionally, it continues to evolve on a standard GoL grid.

Then, importantly, it collapses itself back down to a 1-dimensional copy of its starting representation, but translated.

Specifically, after 133_076_755_768 steps, the 1-dimensional pattern reoccurs translated by two pixels. On skimming the thread I haven't determined if that shift is parallel or perpendicular to the line.

Re: 1D Conway's Life glider found, 3.7B cells long

#50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It only starts out 1-dimensionally, it continues to evolve on a standard GoL grid.

Then, importantly, it collapses itself back down to a 1-dimensional copy of its starting representation, but translated.

Can it leave other bits behind after it moves?
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