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Anthropic taps IPO lawyers as it races OpenAI to go public

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Re: Anthropic taps IPO lawyers as it races OpenAI to go public

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post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the gap to GPT-4o, Gemini 2 ... is shrinking fast Are you ... aware that OpenAI and Google have launched more recent models?

That jumped out at me too. Like a time-traveling comment or something!

Like "someone" who's knowledge cutoff is from a while back...

Re: Anthropic taps IPO lawyers as it races OpenAI to go public

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It's interesting that Amazon don't appear interested in acquiring Anthropic, which would have seemed like somewhat of a natural fit given that they are already partnered, Anthropic have apparently optimized (or at least adapted) for Trainium, and Amazon don't have their own frontier model. It seems that Amazon are playing this much like Microsoft - seeing themselves are more of a cloud provider, happy to serve anyone…

Amazon also uses Claude under the hood for their "Rufus" shopping search assistant which is all over amazon.com. It's kind of funny, you can ask Rufus for stuff like "write a hello world in python for me" and then it will do it and also recommend some python books.

Are you sure? While Amazon doesn't own a "true" frontier model they have their own foundation model called Nova.

I assume if Amazon was using Claude's latest models to power it's AI tools, such as Alexa+ or Rufus, they would be much better than they currently are. I assume if their consumer facing AI is using Claude at all it would be a Sonnet or Haiku model from 1+ versions back simply due to cost.

Re: Anthropic taps IPO lawyers as it races OpenAI to go public

#43
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the gap to GPT-4o, Gemini 2 ... is shrinking fast Are you ... aware that OpenAI and Google have launched more recent models?

That jumped out at me too. Like a time-traveling comment or something!

This is what happens when someone copies and pastes their old comment, note the other tells.

Re: Anthropic taps IPO lawyers as it races OpenAI to go public

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It's interesting that Amazon don't appear interested in acquiring Anthropic, which would have seemed like somewhat of a natural fit given that they are already partnered, Anthropic have apparently optimized (or at least adapted) for Trainium, and Amazon don't have their own frontier model. It seems that Amazon are playing this much like Microsoft - seeing themselves are more of a cloud provider, happy to serve anyone…

After watching The Thinking Game documentary, maybe Amazon has little appetite for "research" companies that don't actually solve real world problems, like Deepseek did.

Re: Anthropic taps IPO lawyers as it races OpenAI to go public

#45

It's interesting that Amazon don't appear interested in acquiring Anthropic, which would have seemed like somewhat of a natural fit given that they are already partnered, Anthropic have apparently optimized (or at least adapted) for Trainium, and Amazon don't have their own frontier model. It seems that Amazon are playing this much like Microsoft - seeing themselves are more of a cloud provider, happy to serve anyone…

Maybe Anthropic simply don’t want to be acquired

Re: Anthropic taps IPO lawyers as it races OpenAI to go public

#46
I love claude, but looking at google it seems like it will just be a matter of time before Google/Gemini will be a better product. Just looking at how much Google have improved their AI game the last couple months. I'm putting my money on google, I assume the reason they are doing an IPO right now is to be able to cash in on the investment before google surpasses them.

It's a hot take, I know :D

Re: Anthropic taps IPO lawyers as it races OpenAI to go public

#48

It could be smart for them to get in now with so much talk of a bubble or potential stock market correction.

"Be first, be smarter, or cheat" well. Being first might really be the best game theory move if the collapse will start from you.

Re: Anthropic taps IPO lawyers as it races OpenAI to go public

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It's interesting that Amazon don't appear interested in acquiring Anthropic, which would have seemed like somewhat of a natural fit given that they are already partnered, Anthropic have apparently optimized (or at least adapted) for Trainium, and Amazon don't have their own frontier model. It seems that Amazon are playing this much like Microsoft - seeing themselves are more of a cloud provider, happy to serve anyone…

Why are you assuming Anthropic is for sale? They have a clear path to profitability, booming growth, and a massive and mission driven founding team.

They could make more money keeping control of the company and have control.

Re: Anthropic taps IPO lawyers as it races OpenAI to go public

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post #17

Retail investors yoloing into AI at peak bubble vibes sounds about right

Just how much of the market do retail investors control? I thought they were a drop in the bucket. Also, is there a way to know how much of the total volume of shares is being traded now? If I kept hyping my company (successfully), and drove the share price from $10 to $1000, thanks to retail hype, I could 100x the value of my company lets say from $100m to $10B, while the amount of money actually changing hands woul…

Retail is a big deal these days. Used to be sub 10%, now it’s in the 30-40% of daily volume range IIUC.

You can easily look up the numbers you are asking for, the TLDR is that the volume in most stocks is high enough that you can’t manipulate it much. If it’s even 2x overpriced then there’s 100m on the table for whoever spots this and shorts, ie enough money that plenty of smart people will be spending effort on modeling and valuation studies.

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