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Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Post by Kelteseth »

exceptione wrote: post #38
bayindirh wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, they're battling with DDoS all the time. I follow their account on Mastodon, and they're pretty open about it. I believe the correct question is "Why they are getting DDoSed this much if they are not something important?" For anyone who wants to follow: https://social.anoxinon.de/@Codeberg Even their status page is under attack. Sorry for my French, but WTF?

Crazy. Who would have an incentive to spend resources on DDoS'ing Codeberg? The only party I can think of would be Github. I know that the normalization of ruthlessness and winner-takes-all mentality made crime mandatory for large parts of the economy, but still cannot wrap my mind around it.

Not just them. For example, Qt self hosted cgit got ddos just two weeks ago. No idea why random open source projects getting attacked.

> in the past 48 hours, code.qt.io has been under a persistent DDoS attack. The attackers utilize a highly distributed network of IP addresses, attempting to obstruct services and network bandwidth.

https://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/development/2025-Nove...

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Post by danilafe »

tuupola wrote: post #10

They also made the disastrous update to the dashboard feed which made the frontpage pretty much useless. https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/65343

Their most most recent update replaces all this with a list of recently updated PRs and issues. I've been learning on it heavily since it came out. One of the few recent changes that really feels like a clear improvement.

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Post by asim »

The article is very hard to read, with ads on one side, links in every other sentence. I could not even figure out where Zig has gone... TLDR anyone?

Edit: Scrolling comments I see something called Codeberg but why am I getting connection refused?

Another edit: Oh because Codeberg is down. I had to look at another thread on the frontpage to find that out...

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Post by verdverm »

p2detar wrote: post #34
themgt wrote: post #19

I have sympathy for some of the GitHub complaints. otoh just went to try to signup for Codeberg and it's down ... 95% uptime over the last 2 weeks? https://status.codeberg.org/status/codeberg

There have been complaints about it on Reddit as well. I registered an account recently and to me the annoying thing is the constant "making sure you are not a bot" check. For now I see no reason to migrate, but I do admit Forgejo looks very interesting to self-host.

https://tangled.org/ is building on ATProto

1. use git or jj

2. pull-request like data lives on the network

3. They have a UI, but anyone can also build one and the ecosystem is shared

I've been considering Gerrit for git-codereview, and tangled will be interesting when private data / repos are a thing. Not trying to have multiple git hosts while I wait

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Post by flohofwoe »

mechazawa wrote: post #2

More and more projects are moving to Codeberg, and I'm wondering; at what point will a critical mass be reached? Or will we end up with a fragmented ecosystem?

All those different 'git forges' use git as version control system and the same issue and PR workflows. There is no fragmentation, unless you consider one git url being different from another git url 'fragmentation' ;)

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Post by maccard »

messe wrote: post #18
hinkley wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh no, our decentralized VCS will be… decentralized! Seriously though the big problem to solve will be squatters, when there are three logical places for a module to be hosted. That could create issues if you want to migrate. I would rather have this happening after a contender to git has surfaced. Something for instance with more project tracking built in so migration were simpler.

> Seriously though the big problem to solve will be squatters, when there are three logical places for a module to be hosted I suspect Codeberg, which is focused on free software, will frown on them. They already disallow mirroring.

> They already disallow mirroring.

In which direction? (I'd check myself but they're down...). That doesn't sound very open to me.

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Post by gear54rus »

bayindirh wrote: post #36
letmetweakit wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's rough ... it is a bad, bad world out there.

Try exposing a paswordless SSH server to outside to see what happens. It'll be tried immediately, non-stop. Now, all the servers I run has no public SSH ports, anymore. This is also why I don't expose home-servers to internet. I don't want that chaos at my doorstep.

this can be fixed by just using random ssh port

all my services are always exposed for convenience but never on a standard port (except http)

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Post by Ygg2 »

exceptione wrote: post #38
bayindirh wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, they're battling with DDoS all the time. I follow their account on Mastodon, and they're pretty open about it. I believe the correct question is "Why they are getting DDoSed this much if they are not something important?" For anyone who wants to follow: https://social.anoxinon.de/@Codeberg Even their status page is under attack. Sorry for my French, but WTF?

Crazy. Who would have an incentive to spend resources on DDoS'ing Codeberg? The only party I can think of would be Github. I know that the normalization of ruthlessness and winner-takes-all mentality made crime mandatory for large parts of the economy, but still cannot wrap my mind around it.

> Who would have an incentive to spend resources

That's not how threat analysis works. That's a conspiracy theory. You need to consider the difficulty of achieving it.

Otherwise I could start speculating which large NAS provider is trying to DDoS me, when in fact it's a script kiddie.

As for who would have the most incentives? Unscrupulous AI scrapers. Every unprotected site experiences a flood of AI scrapers/bots.

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Post by letmetweakit »

bayindirh wrote: post #36
letmetweakit wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's rough ... it is a bad, bad world out there.

Try exposing a paswordless SSH server to outside to see what happens. It'll be tried immediately, non-stop. Now, all the servers I run has no public SSH ports, anymore. This is also why I don't expose home-servers to internet. I don't want that chaos at my doorstep.

Yeah, I have been thinking about hosting a small internet facing service on my home server, but I’m just not willing to take the risk. I’d do it on a separate internet connection, but not on my main one.

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Post by phoronixrly »

crimsoneer wrote: post #40
phoronixrly wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

Wait, how is Tangled VC controlled? As far as I Know, it's actually decentralised properly on atproto, with barely any bluesky dependencies?

Is it not backed by a registered in Finland limited liability company? Haven't they acquired pre-seed funding by Antler, a VC company?
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