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Re: SmartTube Compromised

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Post by graemep »

hhh wrote: post #37
londons_explore wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

14 dollars a month for a decade is $1680. To save $1680 I'd prefer to just use an adblocker (which I have done for the past decade)

Yes, and you choose to risk losing the most important platform to humanity next to Wikipedia. Youtube should be a public service.

I am dubious about the importance of Youtube. If it disappeared tomorrow how long would it take for most videos to reappear elsewhere? Some of the creators I watch do have the videos available elsewhere. Veritasium is on Odysee, lots of people are on Nebula (and release videos there that are not on Youtube), etc.

I think there is a good argument that having a single dominant platform has been harmful.

Re: SmartTube Compromised

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Post by Rastonbury »

hhh wrote: post #37
londons_explore wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

14 dollars a month for a decade is $1680. To save $1680 I'd prefer to just use an adblocker (which I have done for the past decade)

Yes, and you choose to risk losing the most important platform to humanity next to Wikipedia. Youtube should be a public service.

Insane hyperbole here, this guy's adblock = risking humanity losing it's 2nd most important platform owned by one of the most profitable companies in the world

OpenAI thought of it first, should YouTube get a government backstop too?

Re: SmartTube Compromised

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Post by consp »

didntcheck wrote: post #36
spaqin wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's extremely subjective, but I'd rather save that $14 a month towards retirement. And if YouTube was only available with ads... well, that's no videos for me, maybe for the better, I would waste less time.

Sure, and you're free to 1. Save $14 for retirement and not watch Youtube 2. Save $14 for retirement and watch Youtube with ads 3. Pay $14 a month for Youtube without ads The only option that's not fair is expecting private companies and creators to give you entertainment and its delivery with nothing in return

Google uses your data and habits for profit. Dont pretend it's free.

Re: SmartTube Compromised

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Post by cyberax »

graemep wrote: post #38
M4v3R wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is $14 dollars for ad-free, unlimited access to literally billions of videos really a steep price? Personally if I were to get rid of all but one of my media subscriptions I would stick with this one, since it's got everything - entertainment, education, inspiration, you name it.

I am not going to watch billions of Videos. Its not entirely ad free, just fewer ads, AFAIK sponsored segments remain so there are still ads, sometimes quite lengthy ones. $14/month is $168 an year, and if you subscribe to multiple other video services the annual total is going to be quite high.

SponsorBlock helps with them.

Re: SmartTube Compromised

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Post by latexr »

hhh wrote: post #37
londons_explore wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

14 dollars a month for a decade is $1680. To save $1680 I'd prefer to just use an adblocker (which I have done for the past decade)

Yes, and you choose to risk losing the most important platform to humanity next to Wikipedia. Youtube should be a public service.

Let’s not get too hasty comparing YouTube to Wikipedia. Maybe what you watch on YouTube is interesting and educational, but let’s not forget it’s also a major platform for misinformation, propaganda, conspiracy theories, radicalisation, scams…

Re: SmartTube Compromised

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Post by temp0826 »

lan321 wrote: post #25
GaryBluto wrote: post #13

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YouTube accounts and Google accounts have been one in the same since 2009.

Obligatory call to free yourselves from having GMail as your (only) main email and especially to not tie it to YT or other unrelated services. I can absolutely imagine my YT accounts at some point getting banned for using adblock, some stupid private upload or some comment.

Having your own domain name is the best option (ideally not hosting on gsuite!)

Re: SmartTube Compromised

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Post by fragmede »

tcfhgj wrote: post #35
Wilya wrote: post #24

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Youtube premium is still ad-free. There is a Youtube premium lite which is kinda-ad-free-but-not-really, but the full ad-free one still exists.

youtube premium has sponsorblock integrated now?

basically, yeah. there's a white fast forward button that appears during frequently fast forwarded sections, which unsurprisingly happens to be sponsor sections.

Re: SmartTube Compromised

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Post by GoblinSlayer »

spaqin wrote: post #16
M4v3R wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is $14 dollars for ad-free, unlimited access to literally billions of videos really a steep price? Personally if I were to get rid of all but one of my media subscriptions I would stick with this one, since it's got everything - entertainment, education, inspiration, you name it.

That's extremely subjective, but I'd rather save that $14 a month towards retirement. And if YouTube was only available with ads... well, that's no videos for me, maybe for the better, I would waste less time.

I get cat videos through messengers.

Re: SmartTube Compromised

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Post by homebrewer »

M4v3R wrote: post #12
dottjt wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's more shocking to people how much YouTube Premium costs.

Is $14 dollars for ad-free, unlimited access to literally billions of videos really a steep price? Personally if I were to get rid of all but one of my media subscriptions I would stick with this one, since it's got everything - entertainment, education, inspiration, you name it.

$14 is two days worth of living in my country for your average man on the street, among many other similar places. Imagine if you had to pay $200 to watch YouTube, that's how much these services cost for us.

They refuse to correct for purchasing power parity and are left with nothing in the end. Steam seems to do very well in comparison.

(I don't watch YouTube even for free, but practically everybody I know does without paying anything, and it makes a lot of sense).

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