"Get out of your way" is marketing speak to cover for missing applications. I've rarely seen such a blatant piece of marketing. "A computer for experts". Any computer with access to a terminal prompt is a computer for experts.
It's a Fedora spin.
C100 Developer Terminal
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#42the choices made on the keyboard layout seem weird to me, though I do like the left hand numpad. But the big esc? the Fn key up top right seems like it makes key chords with it kind of hard. No ins key? no prt scr? is that 3 ctrl keys? or is that a caps lock? arrow keys etc seem a bit far away from main keyboard...
Including the keyboard seems a strange choice, especially when it's an oddity such as this one. Surely it'd be cheaper to add an extra USB port and have the buyer supply their own? I mouse left-handed, so a left hand numpad makes it an instant no from me - but even if you don't care what I think (which you shouldn't), there's so many other oddities in the layout as well! Where's PrtSc? Why is the Esc key so gigantic? Why is F7 not in its normal place? And, wait a moment - what is £ doing on 4? Why is € on 5?
This company is apparently based in London, but I wonder how many UK residents were involved in the design of the keyboard at least.
(I don't want to sound too mean though. It's no sin to attempt to experiment with a potential new market segment.)
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#43A few things about this stand out:
- Calligra with two 'l's is the name of a KDE office suite.
- Why does the keyboard have macOS keys? At least as a Linux user, I've felt like most Linux desktops reflect the Windows keyboard layout more.
- Can I have pictures of the internals of the machine, or is this a 3D rendering?
- The Workbench OS makes a lot of claims that I want more information about. Is this a rice on a common WM or something they made themselves? Why is it "suitable for sovereign and secure deployments"? Won't having homebrew and DNF lead to conflicts (this is more of a general question, since I genuinely don't know)?
Nonetheless, I have to say that it does look cool from a design perspective, and with the pace of DRAM prices, maybe the actual system price won't actually be that crazy in a few months.
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#44If Teenage Engineering made a computer. Expensive, not ergonomic, probably totally useless.
I wouldn't say TE's products are not ergonomic and totally useless
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#45A few things about this stand out: - Calligra with two 'l's is the name of a KDE office suite. - Why does the keyboard have macOS keys? At least as a Linux user, I've felt like most Linux desktops reflect the Windows keyboard layout more. - Can I have pictures of the internals of the machine, or is this a 3D rendering? - The Workbench OS makes a lot of claims that I want more information about. Is this a rice on a co…
To be honest, every time I see something this paper-thin yet slick and polished, I just assume it's mostly AI slop. The barrier to launching vaporware has never been lower.
Content over presentation is a signal for quality more than ever.
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#46I’ll be really happy if this becomes a market segment. A commercial desktop specifically for technical users on Linux is great to see.
What specific technical thing about this makes it appealing? The marketing speak sounds nice but is there anything you're seeing here that you wouldn't get in a MacBook or Thinkpad equivalently priced? There is not much detail.
I’m not endorsing the device. It might be mediocre, and the company might be too. What I like is the direction. Most of the criticism in this thread focuses on the marketing, but that’s actually the part I find interesting: it’s explicitly aimed at Linux-centric desktop users without pretending to be “just like Windows” or trying to hide the fact that it’s Linux.
Plenty of people are frustrated with the current Windows ecosystem (Microsoft account login really bothers me for a lot of reasons). The market usually responds with one of two things: a Windows laptop you can convert into a Linux machine, or a Linux machine that tries very hard not to act like one. This is at least purporting to be neither (maybe they are full of shit, who knows). It’s trying to sell a finished, opinionated product for power users on Linux. Even if this particular device ends up turning into the next juicero/Rabbit R100, I’m glad to see someone treating that segment as worth designing for.
So yeah computer vendors, go ahead and do this more I like the vibes here even if I have no intention on buying right now.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
What specific technical thing about this makes it appealing? The marketing speak sounds nice but is there anything you're seeing here that you wouldn't get in a MacBook or Thinkpad equivalently priced? There is not much detail.
I’m not endorsing the device. It might be mediocre, and the company might be too. What I like is the direction. Most of the criticism in this thread focuses on the marketing, but that’s actually the part I find interesting: it’s explicitly aimed at Linux-centric desktop users without pretending to be “just like Windows” or trying to hide the fact that it’s Linux. Plenty of people are frustrated with the current Windo…
The philosophy does sound good but the implementation appears to be skin deep. It's just not enough.
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#48Might be worth to buy just for the parts
It's $1,000 worth of parts. (Although 96 GB of RAM could be worth $10,000 soon enough.)
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
No need for a boatload of shell scripts that's omarchy. Just install any distro and get going.
different strokes dude
Fair. Just wanted to provide my stroke and warn people about a low quality, overhyped project. Doesn't mean it shouldn't exist or people can't use it.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
different strokes dude
Fair. Just wanted to provide my stroke and warn people about a low quality, overhyped project. Doesn't mean it shouldn't exist or people can't use it.
I've been very pleased with omarchy. Most linux distros were "just shell scripts" for 30+ years. Many still are.