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The Generative Burrito Test

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Re: The Generative Burrito Test

#42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The NBP looks like a mock of food to me - the unwrapped burrito on a single piece of intact tinfoil, a table where the grain goes all wonky, an almost pastry looking tortilla, hyperrealistic beans and there's something wrong with the focal plane. It's just not as plasticy and oversaturated as the others.

Hyperrealistic beans? The focal plane? You are reaching really hard here. The table grain is the only thing that gives it away - if it weren't for that no one without advance warning is going to notice that it's not real.

Yeah, hyperrealistic beans. They don't look real at all. The inside of an actual burrito is messy after you bite into it (and usually before). That burrito has a couple of nearly dry, yet for some reason speckled, beans that look more like they're floating on top of the burrito rather than actually in it.

And yeah, the focal plane is wonky. If you try to draw a box around what's in focus, you end up with something that does not make sense given where the "camera" is - like the focal plane runs at a diagonal - so you have the salsa all in perfect focus, but for some reason one of the beans which appears to be the exact same distance away, is subtly out of focus.

I mean, it's not bad, but it doesn't actually look like a real burrito either. That said, I'm not sure how much I'd notice at a casual glance.

Re: The Generative Burrito Test

#43
post #8

Oh wow, I've been hearing about Nano Banana Pro in random stuff lately, but as a layman the difference is stark. It's the only one that actually looks like a partially eaten burrito at all to me. The others all look like staged marketing fake food, if I'm being generous (only a few actually approach that, most just look wrong).

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Re: The Generative Burrito Test

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post #8

Oh wow, I've been hearing about Nano Banana Pro in random stuff lately, but as a layman the difference is stark. It's the only one that actually looks like a partially eaten burrito at all to me. The others all look like staged marketing fake food, if I'm being generous (only a few actually approach that, most just look wrong).

Someone on reddit made a "real or nano banana pro image" website for people to test if they could spot generated images. The running average was 50% accuracy.

It looks like they took the page down now though...

Re: The Generative Burrito Test

#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hyperrealistic beans? The focal plane? You are reaching really hard here. The table grain is the only thing that gives it away - if it weren't for that no one without advance warning is going to notice that it's not real.

Yeah, hyperrealistic beans. They don't look real at all. The inside of an actual burrito is messy after you bite into it (and usually before). That burrito has a couple of nearly dry, yet for some reason speckled, beans that look more like they're floating on top of the burrito rather than actually in it. And yeah, the focal plane is wonky. If you try to draw a box around what's in focus, you end up with something th…

Re: focus. It looks like a collage - like the burrito has been pasted in. The Nano Bana 1 image doesn't have that problem.

Re: The Generative Burrito Test

#46
post #8

Oh wow, I've been hearing about Nano Banana Pro in random stuff lately, but as a layman the difference is stark. It's the only one that actually looks like a partially eaten burrito at all to me. The others all look like staged marketing fake food, if I'm being generous (only a few actually approach that, most just look wrong).

That’s what I came here to say! Oh my goodness it’s a huge difference.

The “partially eaten” part of the prompt is interesting…everyone knows what a half-eaten burrito looks like but clearly the computers struggle.

Re: The Generative Burrito Test

#47

One of my tests for new image generation models is professional food photography, particularly in cases where the food has constraints, such as "a peanut butter and jelly sandwich in the shape of a Rubik’s cube" (blog post from 2022 for DALL-E 2: https://minimaxir.com/2022/07/food-photography-ai/ ) For some reason ever since DALL-E 2, all food models seem to generate obviously fake food and/or misinterpret the fun co…

Nano-Banana does a (inter)stellar job with food based prompts. https://mordenstar.com/portfolio/wontauns

Make you wonder if they're using all the restaurant review photos on google maps to train

Re: The Generative Burrito Test

#48
I don't eat a lot of burritos and when I do they aren't bean burritos, so I'm honestly wondering: do they commonly have whole beans in them? I expect that if they do, they aren't often so clean and shiny looking, but what I expected is more of a mushy/refried bean look.

Do people get burritos with beans in them more or less as pictured? Aesthetically, it seems like it'd look pretty appealing if you were someone who loved beans compared to what I had in mind, but again I'm really in no position to judge these images based on bean appearance.

Re: The Generative Burrito Test

#49

I don't eat a lot of burritos and when I do they aren't bean burritos, so I'm honestly wondering: do they commonly have whole beans in them? I expect that if they do, they aren't often so clean and shiny looking, but what I expected is more of a mushy/refried bean look. Do people get burritos with beans in them more or less as pictured? Aesthetically, it seems like it'd look pretty appealing if you were someone who l…

Many taquerias offer a choice of beans. If you ask for "pinto" (like the prompt) they will look like this yes.

Re: The Generative Burrito Test

#50
post #8

Oh wow, I've been hearing about Nano Banana Pro in random stuff lately, but as a layman the difference is stark. It's the only one that actually looks like a partially eaten burrito at all to me. The others all look like staged marketing fake food, if I'm being generous (only a few actually approach that, most just look wrong).

I don't know if it's the abundance of stock photos in the set or the training, but the 'hypertune' default look of AI photos drives me crazy. Things are super smooth, the colors pop wildly, the depth of field is really shallow, everything is overly posed, details far too sharp, etc. Vaguely reminds me of the weird skin-crawler filter levels used by people like mr beast.

I think it is the fine tuning, because you can find AI photos that look more like real ones. I guess people prefer obviously fake looking 'picturesque' photos to more realistic ones? Maybe it's just because the money is in selling to people generating marketing materials? NB is clearly the only model here which permits a half eaten burrito to actually appear to have been bitten.

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