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Orion 1.0

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Re: Orion 1.0

#41
Is there any info with a bit more details on extensions on the desktop version? More specifically, is Orion going to have its own extension ecosystem? Is it compatible with chrome or FF extensions? If it is gonna be its own thing, are there dev docs available anywhere?

Asking because I’ve read the article, and I noticed extensions being mentioned a few times (including in one of the subchapter titles). However, I couldn’t find any actual info about extensions there.

Re: Orion 1.0

#42
post #35

> Most people switch browsers for one reason: speed. Is that true? Maybe it is and I'm out of the loop but I can't remember the last time someone complained about browser speed. The bottleneck seems to be website bloat more than anything else. Would love to see this argument quantified.

It is. That's why I dropped Firefox.

Have you tried it out recently? On Mac and Android it is now very good.

It used to be slow for me, but now on the same hardware it is fast enough that I don't see any difference compared to chrome.

Re: Orion 1.0

#43
post #41

Is there any info with a bit more details on extensions on the desktop version? More specifically, is Orion going to have its own extension ecosystem? Is it compatible with chrome or FF extensions? If it is gonna be its own thing, are there dev docs available anywhere? Asking because I’ve read the article, and I noticed extensions being mentioned a few times (including in one of the subchapter titles). However, I cou…

Orion is compatible with a large number of extensions for Chrome, Firefox, and Safari. Not all of them work, and yes, we plan to offer documentation for creating extensions that are immediately compatible with Orion.

Re: Orion 1.0

#44

Downloaded the dmg/installer (not from the App Store), launched it and I get Update Error! An error occurred while parsing the update feed. [ Cancel Update ] and clicking the button it exists, and that's it. Disappointing for a 1.0 release. Maybe it's related to PiHole? I'm on MacOS 26.1

Orion Tech Lead here: Thank you for your patience — the issue has now been fixed. Please try updating now :)

Re: Orion 1.0

#45
I’m using it now, feels so much snappier on my 10 year old iPhone than the previous version on Orion.

Re: Orion 1.0

#46

I like the direction and keep checking in on it, but while Orion remains closed source there's no chance of it ever being more than a curiosity for me.

(I work at Kagi, but do not work on Orion)

There's a lot of different reasons that people ask for open sourcing of Orion / software in general; could I ask you to expand a bit more as to which issues being open source would address for you?

I can assume of course, but I'd rather listen to you articulate it, even if it's usual reasons.

Re: Orion 1.0

#47

Downloaded the dmg/installer (not from the App Store), launched it and I get Update Error! An error occurred while parsing the update feed. [ Cancel Update ] and clicking the button it exists, and that's it. Disappointing for a 1.0 release. Maybe it's related to PiHole? I'm on MacOS 26.1

> Maybe it's related to PiHole No. Update server return empty response. That why there are error.

Orion Tech Lead here: Thank you for your patience — the issue has now been fixed. Please try updating now :)

Re: Orion 1.0

#48

I hope I don't come across too harsh in my criticism here, but this is in my wheelhouse and I like to keep tabs on the privacy browser market in comparison to Waterfox. > A bold technical choice: WebKit, not another Chromium clone I don't find this a bold technical choice at all for a macOS only browser? I think this would be more impressive if it was Windows as well, as back (maybe ~5 or so years ago) when I was inv…

I tried Orion before and It was good to me. The closed-source part It is also something I don't like. I wish they do the browser open-source. I want to see if they use rust underneath :p.

Although, let's be honest few people look at the entire codebase. However i believe It would be beneficial to make It open-source for them so they could have contributors. Also new features would be easier to add. For example, i know some protocols like Multicast QUIC which was almost impossible to be added in Safari and Chrome.

Re: Orion 1.0

#49

Mm maybe hugged to death getting an error on startup Update Error! An error occurred while parsing the update feed.

Orion Tech Lead here - Thank you for your patience — the issue has now been fixed. Please try updating now :)

Re: Orion 1.0

#50

Mm maybe hugged to death getting an error on startup Update Error! An error occurred while parsing the update feed.

I get the same (see other post) but well, that's not an excuse. If you fail to update for $REASON you just continue without updating, and that's it.

$REASON = "website redirection";
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