This hostility towards privacy all over the world signals that there is a co-ordinated change happening in the world. Unfortunately we still don't know what it is or what its goals are.
It's palantir.
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France is taking state actions against GrapheneOS?
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Re: France is taking state actions against GrapheneOS?
#42The newspaper article referenced contains insinuation (linking GrapheneOS to the darkweb, criminal gangs etc), and unnamed sources quoting a police investigation. But that sort of thing sells newspapers. There didn't appear to be anything about the French state taking specific action (eg passing a law) against Graphene.
> "Particularité de GraphèneOS : on peut se le procurer autant sur le darknet que sur des sites grand public." ⇒ "A distinctive feature of GrapheneOS is that it can be obtained both on the darknet and on mainstream websites."
You could probably get normal android roms on the darknet also. Maybe not a good idea, but this is not unique to grapheneos.
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#43GrapheneOS is a project with really good intentions, and we should definitely give them credit. But here’s the thing: criminals end up exploiting tech like this, and that makes the project an easy target for law enforcement. We’ve seen the exact same thing happen with crypto. We need to just accept that any technology designed for security and privacy is always going to be a double-edged sword.
The problem is not that security solutions are a double edged sword, it's that such solutions stop mass surveillance.
When Ross Ulbricht was arrested, they made sure to do it in a way that they got access to his laptop while logged in. I'm sure competent investigators can figure out the login method used daily by someone on their phone if they follow them because they are committing a crime. Just like they did with Ulbricht. But they can't do that for everyone whenever they feel like it, and that's the problem.
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#45This hostility towards privacy all over the world signals that there is a co-ordinated change happening in the world. Unfortunately we still don't know what it is or what its goals are.
Personally I’ve grown hostile to the concept of anonymous speech but I readily admit that I can’t imagine a way to deanonymize without also losing privacy as most people describe it.
Anonymous posters like what looks like a troll bot that the GrapheneOS account is arguing with have flooded the zone with so much noise its fracturing society imo
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#46Re: France is taking state actions against GrapheneOS?
#47The newspaper article referenced contains insinuation (linking GrapheneOS to the darkweb, criminal gangs etc), and unnamed sources quoting a police investigation. But that sort of thing sells newspapers. There didn't appear to be anything about the French state taking specific action (eg passing a law) against Graphene.
The laws already exist. Graphene team is accusing the French law enforcement of this: https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/115584160910016309 > This doesn't have anything to do with how French journalists have responded to the state actions against GrapheneOS but rather the actions and statements by France's state agencies and law enforcement which are highly concerning. They're making highly inaccurate and libelous…
Which state actions? A police raid? Some mean papers delivered?
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#48Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité, but just for a few. Remember the French goverment banning encryption in the 90's.
The French elite hates science and math because it was modernly developed by the Brits, and they love to put Arts/Humanities bullshitters like Derrida on top as if they mattered something over Francis Bacon and Newton. Just watch any TF1 talk show and you'll understand what I mean. Or, well, any state supported Homeopathy based "pills" (which is mostly snake oil being sold as sugar). Or the Sokal affair...
I can go on and on...
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