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Re: Nano Banana Pro

#41

> Generate better visuals with more accurate, legible text directly in the image in multiple languages Assuming that this new model works as advertised, it's interesting to me that it took this long to get an image generation model that can reliably generate text. Why is text generation in images so hard?

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Re: Nano Banana Pro

#42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's called Synth ID. It's a watermark that proves an image was generated by AI. https://deepmind.google/models/synthid/

*by Google's AI.

By anybody's AI using SynthID watermarking, not just Google's AI using SynthID watermarking (it looks like partnership is not open to just anyone though, you have to apply).

Re: Nano Banana Pro

#43
The interesting tidbit here is SynthID. While a good first step, it doesn't solve the problem of AI generated content NOT having any kind of watermark. So we can prove that something WITH the ID is AI generated but we can't prove that something without one ISN'T AI generated.

Like it would be nice if all photo and video generated by the big players would have some kind of standardized identifier on them - but now you're left with the bajillion other "grey market" models that won't give a damn about that.

Re: Nano Banana Pro

#44
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In theory, at least. In practice maybe not. https://i.imgur.com/WKckRmi.png

? Google doesn't claim that Gemini would call SynthID detector at this point. Edit: well they actually do. I guess it is not rolled out yet.

From the OP:

> Today, we are putting a powerful verification tool directly in consumers’ hands: you can now upload an image into the Gemini app and simply ask if it was generated by Google AI, thanks to SynthID technology. We are starting with images, but will expand to audio and video soon.

Re-rolling a few times got it to mention trying SynthID, but as a false negative, assuming it actually did the check and isn't just bullshitting.

> No Digital Watermark Detected: I was unable to detect any digital watermarks (such as Google's SynthID) that would definitively label it as being generated by a specific AI tool.

This would be a lot simpler if they just exposed the detector directly, but apparently the future is coaxing an LLM into doing a tool call and then second guessing whether it actually ran the tool.

Re: Nano Banana Pro

#45
I've had nano banana pro for a few weeks now, and it's the most impressive AI model I've ever seen

The inline verification of images following the prompt is awesome, and you can do some _amazing_ stuff with it.

It's probably not as fun anymore though (in the early access program, it doesn't have censoring!)

Re: Nano Banana Pro

#46

The interesting tidbit here is SynthID. While a good first step, it doesn't solve the problem of AI generated content NOT having any kind of watermark. So we can prove that something WITH the ID is AI generated but we can't prove that something without one ISN'T AI generated. Like it would be nice if all photo and video generated by the big players would have some kind of standardized identifier on them - but now you…

Labelling open source models as "grey market" is a heck of a presumption

Re: Nano Banana Pro

#47

The interesting tidbit here is SynthID. While a good first step, it doesn't solve the problem of AI generated content NOT having any kind of watermark. So we can prove that something WITH the ID is AI generated but we can't prove that something without one ISN'T AI generated. Like it would be nice if all photo and video generated by the big players would have some kind of standardized identifier on them - but now you…

Labelling open source models as "grey market" is a heck of a presumption

It's why I used "scare quotes".

Re: Nano Banana Pro

#48
I tried the studio ghibli prompt on a photo my me and my wife in Japan and it was... not good. It looked more like a hand drawn sketch made with colored pencils, but none of the colors were correct. Everything was a weird shade of yellow/brown.

This has been an oddly difficult benchmark for Gemini's NB models. Googles images models have always been pretty bad at the studio ghibli prompt, but I'm shocked at how poorly it performs at this task still.

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