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I am just sooo sick of AI prediction content, let's kill it already

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Re: I am just sooo sick of AI prediction content, let's kill it already

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AI tools will get easier and easier to use. There will be no skill level required to use them effectively.

Just like internet... completely safe to use, no malicious downloads, no scams to spot, totally safe and easy to use with no skill...oh wait...

That's not what they're saying.

The easier "AI" gets to use (as it is being "promised" it will), the quicker a skilled engineered is going to be able to adapt to it whenever they give up and start using it. They'll likely be ahead of any of those previous adopters who just couldn't resist the allure of simply accepting whatever is spit out without thoroughly reviewing it first.

Re: I am just sooo sick of AI prediction content, let's kill it already

#42

> The worse thing about this parasitic trend is that most of the time it’s basically a dude who wants to appear visionary and so he makes a prediction of the future. This is basically an entire genre of low effort Hackernews posts.

The ones making grandiose predictions or the ones making broad, mildly cynical dismissals?

:-)

Re: I am just sooo sick of AI prediction content, let's kill it already

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Has this been true for any technology, ever? In that the curve of skill to output quality will be completely flat? I would be suspicious of this claim.

> Has this been true for any technology, ever? Yes? Try abacus, slide rules or mechanical calculating machines vs electronic calculators. Or ancient vs modern computers and software. They didn't even have "end-users" like we understand them now, every computer user was a specialist. Programming. Writing. Quill vs. ballpen, but also alphabets vs what you had to write before. Photography, more than one big jump in usab…

Are you really claiming that calculators require no skill?

Re: I am just sooo sick of AI prediction content, let's kill it already

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> Now, I should clarify: I am not against talking about the impact of AI. It is a truly transformative technology after all.

This is how I feel. You see so many articles prognosticating and living in the world of hypotheticals, meanwhile AI is transforming industries today and article tracking those changes feel rare. Are they on an obscure blog?

Re: I am just sooo sick of AI prediction content, let's kill it already

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Has this been true for any technology, ever? In that the curve of skill to output quality will be completely flat? I would be suspicious of this claim.

> Has this been true for any technology, ever? Yes? Try abacus, slide rules or mechanical calculating machines vs electronic calculators. Or ancient vs modern computers and software. They didn't even have "end-users" like we understand them now, every computer user was a specialist. Programming. Writing. Quill vs. ballpen, but also alphabets vs what you had to write before. Photography, more than one big jump in usab…

I would argue that for all of these there's still a skill element evolved.

If I give an accountant an electronic calculator and a problem to solve, they'll be more efficient than me

If I give someone who spent thousands of hours on a computer a task on it, they'll be able to do more than my parents

If I give someone that writes a lot a ballpen, their writing will be faster and more legible than someone like me who barely writes on paper.

Re: I am just sooo sick of AI prediction content, let's kill it already

#46

The only prediction that I think is robust is: Those who use AI as tool today will replace those that aren't tomorrow. Same situation with internet, we saw a bubble but ultimately those that changed their business around it monopolized various industries where they were slow to react. Some jobs will be replaced outright but most will use AI tools and we might see reduced wages/positions available for a very long time…

Identifying the 1% of ai use cases that are useful and refusing to have your attention stolen by the 99% that is mild melting garbage will be the key ai skill for the ai future

So same as with the internet

Re: I am just sooo sick of AI prediction content, let's kill it already

#47
I suspect that a part of this unusually-long discourse over the same, admittedly tired issues, stems from deeper societal concerns than mere technology posturing alone. That’s why it continues retreading the same ground, over and over again, trying to build armies for a given “side”.

If we break down every single AI post over the past two years, we get the same conclusions every single time:

* Transformer and Diffusion models (current “AI”) won’t replace jobs wholesale, BUT-

* Current AI will drastically reshape certain segments of employment, like software development or copywriting, BUT-

* Likely only to the point that lower-tier talent is forced out or to adapt, or that bad roles are outright eliminated (slop/SEO farms)

As for the industry itself:

* There’s no long-term market for subscription services beyond vendor lock-in and users with skill atrophy

* The build-out of inference and compute is absolutely an unsustainable bubble barring a profound revolution in machine learning that enables AI to replace employment wholesale AND do so using existing compute architectures

* The geopolitical and societal shifts toward sovereignty/right-to-repair means the best path forward is likely local-inferencing, which doesn’t support the subscription-based models of major AI players

* Likely-insurmountable challenges in hallucinations, safeguards, and reliable outputs over time will restrict adoption to niche processes instead of general tasks

And finally, from a sociological perspective:

* The large AI players/proponents are predominantly technocrat billionaires and wealthy elites seeking to fundamentally reshape societal governance in their favor and hoard more resources for themselves, a deeply diseased viewpoint that even pro-AI folks are starting to retch at the prospect of serving

* The large resistance to AI at present is broadly coming from regular people angry at the prospect of their replacement (and worse) by technology in a society where they must work to survive, and are keenly aware of the real motives in Capital eliminating the need for labor in terms of power distribution

* Humans who have dedicated their lives to skilled and/or creative pursuits in particular are vocally resistant to the mandate by technocrats of “AI everywhere”, and continue to lead the discourse not in how to fight against AI (a losing battle now that Pandora’s Box is open), but in building a healthier and more equitable society where said advancements benefit humans first/equally, and Capital last

* The “creator” part of society in particular is enraged at having their output stolen/seized by Capital for profit without compensation and destroying their digital homes and physical livelihoods in the process, and that is a wound that cannot be addressed short of direct, substantial monetary compensation in perpetuity - essentially holding Capital accountable for piracy much like Capital holds consumers accountable (or tries to). This is a topic of ongoing debate that will likely reshape IP laws at a fundamental level for the century to come.

There. You can skip the glut of blogs, now, at least until any one of the above points substantially changes.

Re: I am just sooo sick of AI prediction content, let's kill it already

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> Those who use AI as tool today will replace those that aren't tomorrow. Unless they let their skills atrophy by offloading them to AI. The things they can do will be commodified and low value. I suspect there will be demand for those who instead chose to hone their skills.

I think if you have that problem, then you're not using AI as a tool; AI is using you. Using AI as a tool doesn't mean having it do everything; it means you have the skill and knowledge to know where and how you can use it.

> it means you have the skill and knowledge to ...

sure, but in the real world the overwhelming majority of people loudly proclaiming the benefits of AI don't actually have the skill or knowledge (or discipline) to do so / judge its correctness. it's peak dunning-kruger

Re: I am just sooo sick of AI prediction content, let's kill it already

#49
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Has this been true for any technology, ever? In that the curve of skill to output quality will be completely flat? I would be suspicious of this claim.

Does everything always need precedence?

I think you mean precedents but in any case the precedent is that often a new tech is heralded with “this time is different! Ignore the precedents” and yet so far that has been wrong every time.

One day the sun won’t rise in the morning but it’s not something I’m going to plan on happening in my lifetime.

Re: I am just sooo sick of AI prediction content, let's kill it already

#50

> The worse thing about this parasitic trend is that most of the time it’s basically a dude who wants to appear visionary and so he makes a prediction of the future. This is basically an entire genre of low effort Hackernews posts.

Or the twitter account of any VC
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