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Okta's NextJS-0auth troubles

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Re: Okta's NextJS-0auth troubles

#41

I think it is distasteful and disrespectful to call out an employee by name in this way, regardless of the merit of the rest of the OP's post.

well, it was distasteful of to them to close op's pr and apply the same patch with improper attribution, and then use ai to respond when they were asked about it

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Re: Okta's NextJS-0auth troubles

#42
post #27

You couldn't pay me a billion dollars to use Okta.

Sadly many people will spend a million dollars to use Okta for their 10,000 logins/day (read: OIDC is not scary, and advanced central authorization features (beyond group memberships) are a big ole YAGNI / complexity trap.

Running your own local AuthN/AuthZ is more than just 'install it on a box in the closet'. I don't blame anyone for letting one of the giants do this on their behalf -- they have the expertise, though I agree I wouldn't touch Okta.

Re: Okta's NextJS-0auth troubles

#43

Is there any non shite managed oAuth solution with a free tier available? Auth0 really is super easy and comfortable to integrate and I don‘t want to run my own keycloak or whatever.

Authentik?

> Replace Okta

Aren't they cheeky!

Thanks, I will try.

Re: Okta's NextJS-0auth troubles

#44

I think it is distasteful and disrespectful to call out an employee by name in this way, regardless of the merit of the rest of the OP's post.

well, it was distasteful of to them to close op's pr and apply the same patch with improper attribution, and then use ai to respond when they were asked about it

I agree with the parent post that it's distasteful.

There's no value in naming the employee. Whatever that employee did, if the company needed to figure out who it was, they can from the commit hashes, etc. But there's no value in the public knowing the employee's name.

Remember that if someone Googles this person for a newer job, it might show up. This is the sort of stuff that can disproportionately harm that person's ability to get a job in the future, even if they made a small mistake (they even apologized for it and was open about what caused it).

So no, it's completely unnecessary and irrelevant to the post.

Re: Okta's NextJS-0auth troubles

#45
post #29

I've been quite happy with FusionAuth so far. Free to run on your own server, easy to understand and set up, easy to program against, reliable.

We're another happy FusionAuth customer. We started with self-hosted but just moved to their hosted option this year.

Re: Okta's NextJS-0auth troubles

#47
FWIW, the employee reply (who the author is putting on blast) seems like it was written by a human, not an AI.

"You're absolutely right!" is the Claude cliche (not a ChatGPT one) - "You are absolutely correct." is not that.

Re: Okta's NextJS-0auth troubles

#49
post #42
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sadly many people will spend a million dollars to use Okta for their 10,000 logins/day (read: OIDC is not scary, and advanced central authorization features (beyond group memberships) are a big ole YAGNI / complexity trap.

Running your own local AuthN/AuthZ is more than just 'install it on a box in the closet'. I don't blame anyone for letting one of the giants do this on their behalf -- they have the expertise, though I agree I wouldn't touch Okta.

For your average enterprise it really is that simple. Register some IDPs. Connect a backend. Add some clients over time.

Yes, you need someone to wear the IAM admin hat. But once you get it configured and running it requires 0.1 FTE or less (likely identical to whatever your Okta admin would be). Not worth 6+ figures a year and exposure to Okta breach risk.

Re: Okta's NextJS-0auth troubles

#50
post #3

That’s funny. I spotted a similar issue in their Go SDK[1] a few years back. I was pretty appalled to see such a basic mistake from a security company, but then again it is Okta. [1]: https://github.com/okta/okta-sdk-golang/issues/306

> I was pretty appalled to see such a basic mistake from a security company, but then again it is Okta. Oh. Em. Gee. Is this a common take on Okta? The article and comments suggest...maybe? That is frightening considering how many customers depend on Okta and Auth0.

Yeah, I have the misfortune of inheriting a SaaS that built on auth0, and the whole stack is rather clownish. But they tick all the regulatory boxes, so we're probably stuck with them (until they suffer a newsworthy breach, at any rate...)
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