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Given that the "fix" involves making the string reported "Possibly Apple, Possibly M1", I am going to say it's a blacklist.
There are two ways in which that could happen. Someone entered that combination into the list without thinking it though. Or more likely, they use a self-learning or heuristic filter that finds the combination 'Linux' and 'Apple M1' unusual because of how rare it is. Either way, it's easier to assume a mistake here because such a dark pattern doesn't make any business sense - notwithstanding their ethical reputation.
PayPal bans Linux users with a GPU name containing the string "Apple M1"
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Re: PayPal bans Linux users with a GPU name containing the string "Apple M1"
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Yeah, I understand it's probably part of their fraud protection, but feels weird that they get my GPU info when doing a payment. Seems very unrelated. Anyone who works on fraud protection who can explain how this info is used?
Not exactly on the backend, but I worked on the frontend (SDKs) at a previous employer whose product offering was fraud detection literally. Over the period of those years, I realised the team wanted "get whatever you can" and then just kept it and used it as needed. A few things I recall - heuristics, some matches with data sources they had of fraudulent actors, et cetera. I am talking about the time when "AI" as we…
The app list one for loans is wild (but I can see it).
Re: PayPal bans Linux users with a GPU name containing the string "Apple M1"
#43Probably tripping some client fingerprinting/fraud detection system because it thinks of it as an anomaly mistaking it for a bot or something. Unlikely to be intentional malice against Asahi users.
so the question is should fraud protection err on the side of too lenient, allowing _some_ fraud to go thru to ensure zero innocent users get marked? Or should fraud protection err on the side of stringency, where all fraud gets caught, but at the cost of getting innocents blocked too (in some greater number)?
Re: PayPal bans Linux users with a GPU name containing the string "Apple M1"
#44I'd guess this is due to some Paypal fraud protection thing thinking that Linux on M1 is an "impossible" configuration to have and that anyone with that configuration must be spoofing their hardware. If you click onto the bug she filed, it's also kind of sad/funny that the Mozilla employee responding to it ALSO assumes that nobody can actually run Linux on M1 and renames the bug to "paypal.com - Spoofing as Apple M G…