I’m increasingly finding things easier to deal with by categorising them into: things I can control; things that are beyond my control.
How to tolerate annoying things
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not money. It's attachment to expectations. No amount of poverty or wealth will reduce your road rage. How you react to people not following the rules of the road as you expect them is on you. If a toddler spills juice on your dress on your wedding day, rich or poor you're just going to have a stained dress and whether you scream or laugh about it really doesn't have anything to do with money. Money is an adapta…
> No amount of poverty or wealth will reduce your road rage. How you react to people not following the rules of the road as you expect them is on you. Yes, but being raised in poverty can be inherently traumatic, and adverse childhood experiences (like those frequently experienced during poverty) can reduce a person's capacity for dealing with stressors. You might benefit from reading the latest research on trauma, a…
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
> No amount of poverty or wealth will reduce your road rage. How you react to people not following the rules of the road as you expect them is on you. Yes, but being raised in poverty can be inherently traumatic, and adverse childhood experiences (like those frequently experienced during poverty) can reduce a person's capacity for dealing with stressors. You might benefit from reading the latest research on trauma, a…
This is a very important point that many people are unaware of unless they have experienced it. Poverty leaves a ton of invisible scars that a simple change in bank balance or net worth cannot erase. These scars compound over generations, and explain a lot of things about modern society that people unaware of the effects of poverty attribute to "moral failings" of individuals.
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#44I have insane admiration for and quite a serious amount of jealousy of people who are able to sail through life with with every setback sailing right past them, leaving no trace or mark. I've noticed it more in people who had a comfortable upringing and no money worries. Oh dear, dinner is burnt? No worries just order takeout! Lost your passport a few days before a holiday - no sweat, just pay the fast track processi…
The book on ACT I'm reading (happiness trap - from the founder of the technique) goes to great length to say that trying to "deal with negative emotions" (anxiety, sadness, etc) using affirmations, rationalization, etc is a dead end - it's not helping in the long run most of the time and is actively distracting and takes a lot of effort that could be put elsewhere.
The suggested path (that i am finding somewhat helpful) is to learn to act in accordance with your values regardless of how you feel and the story you tell in your head. It will still suck balls day to day, but on top of that, in the long run, you will feel more at peace and in control and respect yourself for following your chosen path.
The core realization is that while it may seem like your feelings (anxiety) and the story that plays in your head* is what makes up YOU, you may treat these as biological and early developmental "warnings" that your brain has learned to warn you of danger, and you most likely will feel this way for the rest of your life and won't have control over that, but you are actually FREE to choose how to act in response to these situations.
It may seem like these feelings and thoughts are making you act in a certain way, but they are not!
In your example, the feeling of financial anxiety could be accompanied by a thought like - "shit, how am i going to pay for that, why does it always happen to me, how do i fix it, why do i have to ruin it for myself and people i care about by being so sloppy, why does the universe makes it so hard for me and so much easier for others.." - and there's nothing you can do to change that feeling or that thought pattern in your head.
But what you can do is to use one of the techniques to (very temporarily) tune out of this thought train, check in with your values (eg taking care of loved ones), and choose a course of action that fits these as much as possible given the circumstances (eg find a way to spend quality time with them on a tighther budget) and DESPITE all that noise in your head.
A large chunk of the book is focused on consciously discovering your core values.
Is it easier to act with integrity (eg not snap at loved ones) moment to moment if you are not under financial stress or if that stress was not a part of your upbringing? Sure as hell! And given these unfair and idiotic and unnecessary circumstances that caused your internal machinery to work the way it does right now (stay alert at all times), it is your decision to commit to a further course of action - either numb your pain short-term (by ruminating, or alcohol, etc) or act in accordance with your values. Your (highly uncooperative ancient meat lizard) brain will still pull you towards a short term fix - because it is its primitive reward-seeking job, and you will inevitably loose control and let it win sometimes (esp under stress), but there is a part of you that can choose to patiently course correct your behavior towards your higher level values every time that happens. Or maybe you know that at this very moment you do not have resources to course correct much - and that's okay, as long as you are being honest with yourself and act accordingly (eg "i need to find a way to take better care of myself atm - to free up resources to take better care of others, it would be against my values to overwork myself to the bone and be so exhausted that i struggle to catch myself when I'm being mean to them").
One additional realization that i found helpful is that, in the face of such challenges, your brain is quite good at making you think that it knows how everything works - so you feel more in control, and so that the path of least resistance (doing nothing or numb your pain now) seems like the most rational one that agrees with your values. An antidote to that I found helpful is to remind yourself that you know very little about who you are (beyond the silly story playing in your head on repeat), and how you will react to things, and who other people are, and what's going on for them. So you can choose to plan your behavior to align with your values under the assumption that you know infinitely little about both yourself and others.
tldr is that pain is inevitable, but you may reduce (but not eliminate) suffering if you learn to act with integrity in the face of it
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#45I have insane admiration for and quite a serious amount of jealousy of people who are able to sail through life with with every setback sailing right past them, leaving no trace or mark. I've noticed it more in people who had a comfortable upringing and no money worries. Oh dear, dinner is burnt? No worries just order takeout! Lost your passport a few days before a holiday - no sweat, just pay the fast track processi…
I don’t think those people you’re thinking about sail through life and never get bothered by anything at all. You probably only see them deal with things that are below their level of worry or frustration. They’re not going to be unbothered by the death of a loved one or major financial catastrophe. However people who have good emotional control can appear to be emotionally invincible relative to people who are turn…
> I wouldn’t agree at all that wealthy people are inherently more resilient to stress
I beg to differ.
I think the OP is talking about growing up in poverty. Repeated stress with no relief, which is the condition of poor people in society, has been shown to affect their resilience. (Sorry, I don't have references handy, but these should be easy to find).
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#46From the article: Micro-stressors such as running late [...] represent the unavoidable pain that comes with being human. Is running late really unavoidable? I think there are proven strategies to avoid it. (My wife and one of my sons on the other hand would agree that it is in fact unavoidable) Edit: added missing word
Re: How to tolerate annoying things
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don’t think those people you’re thinking about sail through life and never get bothered by anything at all. You probably only see them deal with things that are below their level of worry or frustration. They’re not going to be unbothered by the death of a loved one or major financial catastrophe. However people who have good emotional control can appear to be emotionally invincible relative to people who are turn…
Your points and examples are valid. However, when you say: > I wouldn’t agree at all that wealthy people are inherently more resilient to stress I beg to differ. I think the OP is talking about growing up in poverty. Repeated stress with no relief, which is the condition of poor people in society, has been shown to affect their resilience. (Sorry, I don't have references handy, but these should be easy to find).
The more you are exposed to stress the more you have to actively deal with it to be successful.
Dealing with it is hard thus not many people do it correctly.
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#48I've been reading No Mud, No Lotus recently ( https://www.parallax.org/product/no-mud-no-lotus/ ) by Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh and this is very much the same advice. This book has brought me immense joy, I'd recommend it to anyone. It's fascinating how much Buddhism has gotten "right".
I certainly agree with your take on Buddhism, but I often find that sage advice is buried amongst spiritual waffle in Buddhist books.
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#49I’ve gotten a lot out of the writings of Albert Ellis whose work in the 50s and 60s became cognitive behavioral therapy. He would have said that it is irrational to demand that everyday inconveniences not exist, and by changing your thinking to accept and expect that unavoidable inconveniences happen, you will be less likely to allow these things to cause emotional distress. He credits the ancient stoics and other ph…
But as the founder of CBT, he did build a huge amount on the previous work. It's one of the few formal psychoanalysis methodologies with considerable quantitative evidence documenting its successes.
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#50I have insane admiration for and quite a serious amount of jealousy of people who are able to sail through life with with every setback sailing right past them, leaving no trace or mark. I've noticed it more in people who had a comfortable upringing and no money worries. Oh dear, dinner is burnt? No worries just order takeout! Lost your passport a few days before a holiday - no sweat, just pay the fast track processi…
We all have problems- you are just seeing the planes with bullet holes coming back