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Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Unfortunately Rivian somehow has even worse reliability than Tesla. And you can buy a BYD in America. There's just a pre-Trump 100% tariff on Chinese EVs with bipartisan support that isn't going away any time soon.

I tried with much effort to import a BYD, and the federal government slowed me down every step of the way to where I gave up around regime change last November. If you have a way I can buy a BYD today, regardless of cost, in the US, I would be interested. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39992428

How far did you get, and what do you mean "regardless of cost"? The big issue is going to be getting the vehicle to pass FMVSS, and it looks like no one has successfully done it. Have you talked to an RI to see if they know why?

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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His cult is a very specific type of person. The general public finds him repulsive as demonstrated by his time in government. He's a cult leader with surprisingly horrible political instincts

> as demonstrated by his time in government Without actually getting into the specific actions he took while in government, I dare say that what he did during that time was material to people's revulsion and that a different version of him who took different actions would have been differently popular.

For sure but deciding what to do is part of political instincts. He rolled in, threw some "roman salutes" fired tons of people in an insanely chaotic way while waving a chainsaw around on stage then showed up in the Whitehouse with a black eye he blamed on his toddler

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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https://electrek.co/2025/11/13/tesla-recalls-over-10000-powe...

They've also recalled powerwalks. Tesla is great at being visionary, their Achilles heal has always been their weak manufacturing. Which makes sense, its the really hard part about being in the car or battery business.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Musk's superpower is cult-building. His fatal flaw is that he has no idea that is his superpower.

His cult is a very specific type of person. The general public finds him repulsive as demonstrated by his time in government. He's a cult leader with surprisingly horrible political instincts

Yeah, most cults are repulsive to most outsiders. Their power is completely derived from the intensity of the in-group's commitment.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Even presuming pieces weren't falling off , every time I see one of these my first thought is how did this pass safety standards (e.g. the sharp corners/blades/edges; pedestrian-strike setups). Now add on flying corners/blades/edges ... even less enthused. ---- I finally drove in a Rivian — and while I prefer the hybrid drivetrains — it was exceptionally nice. As an American, I can't wait for BYD to offer test drives…

Unfortunately Rivian somehow has even worse reliability than Tesla. And you can buy a BYD in America. There's just a pre-Trump 100% tariff on Chinese EVs with bipartisan support that isn't going away any time soon.

You can't. You don't want an old, non-electric one (presumably), so you can't use that loophole to register one. So unless you're the CEO of Ford (who has all the connections in the world), you won't be able to bring it in and register it, and depending on the state, you have to register it, even if it's not operating on public lands. I will pay $5k on top of the $8k base price and $8k for 100% tarrif, for a total of $21k for a BYD Seagull in California if you can get one delivered and registered to me. I'm sure there's collectors out there offering way more.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Musk's superpower is cult-building. His fatal flaw is that he has no idea that is his superpower.

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He literally doesn't deliver.

SpaceX is the only company of his that consistently delivers and that's effectively not operated by him.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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That's because Musk personally oversaw the design of the Cybertruck and likely rejected all pleas to make sensible decisions. Musk did not design the other models. Just like how SpaceX and Tesla and Twitter seem like they have three different CEOs; the degree of their competency is inversely proportional to the amount of day-to-day feedback Musk has into their operations.

You do see glimpses of it in the other models. Eg. The removal of the indicator stalk likely saved <$100 (if that!) but it's a non-starter for many buyers. That has to be Musk's doing right?

> You do see glimpses of it in the other models. Eg. The removal of the indicator stalk likely saved "all input is error" - elon musk

wdyt? From where I'm sitting anyone with that position would deprecate the input devices...

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Even presuming pieces weren't falling off , every time I see one of these my first thought is how did this pass safety standards (e.g. the sharp corners/blades/edges; pedestrian-strike setups). Now add on flying corners/blades/edges ... even less enthused. ---- I finally drove in a Rivian — and while I prefer the hybrid drivetrains — it was exceptionally nice. As an American, I can't wait for BYD to offer test drives…

Unfortunately Rivian somehow has even worse reliability than Tesla. And you can buy a BYD in America. There's just a pre-Trump 100% tariff on Chinese EVs with bipartisan support that isn't going away any time soon.

I've seen BYD commercial vehicles in the US, but only at a company not known for following rules. I suspect commercial vehicles are easier to import anyway.

Regular passenger vehicles have a lot of standards they need to meet, which usually means manufacturer participation. Has BYD gone through the process to get passenger vehicles approved for use in the US? Otherwise, sure, you can get it imported under a conditional use to bring it to car shows, but not for daily use.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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The issue stems from the primer applied before gluing the optional light bar to the windshield (no fasteners are used in the attachment of the light bar). Is that typical in the industry, parts or components being glued onto an exterior surface instead of fastened?

Its even stranger because presumably the light requires a wire for power, so using an adhesive doesn't allow them to avoid making at least 1 hole in the roof. Perhaps it's about minimizing the installation cost at the dealership. The irony is that you'd imagine that an off-road roof mounted light would be something that you should be able to tighten when you are ... off-road. I guess field serviceability isn't a desi…

The off road community has been complaining about "off road" vehicles that are not suitable for off road use for decades. Most off "road vehicles" are you can drive it around the house to your backyard if it isn't too muddy/steep. Anyone who really goes off road is looking for a lot of features that are hard to find in a production vehicle. (which is why they often modify production vehicles). A true off road vehicle often looks like a production off-road vehicle, but in production they do cosmetic changes to look the same as what true off-road vehicles do - but the difference cosmetic. Things like both sit high off the ground, but the off road one they look at what mechanical parts are underneath and either protect them or raise them.
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