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Why Nietzsche matters in the age of artificial intelligence

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Re: Why Nietzsche matters in the age of artificial intelligence

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Post by binary132 »

xeckr wrote: post #25
retrocog wrote: post #17

AI breaks old sources of meaning the same way Nietzsche said the death of God broke inherited morality. When external structures collapse (roles, labels, certainty), meaning has to be generated from within. Identity becomes what you return to repeatedly (actions, habits, resonance), not what you’re labeled as. Morality becomes drift-resilience — maintaining coherence when everything shifts. Nietzsche isn’t telling us…

My spidey sense is telling me an LLM was used in drafting this comment

I think people who use AI too much are also unconsciously adopting turns of speech used by AIs.

Re: Why Nietzsche matters in the age of artificial intelligence

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Post by apsurd »

thatcat wrote: post #37
retrocog wrote: post #17

AI breaks old sources of meaning the same way Nietzsche said the death of God broke inherited morality. When external structures collapse (roles, labels, certainty), meaning has to be generated from within. Identity becomes what you return to repeatedly (actions, habits, resonance), not what you’re labeled as. Morality becomes drift-resilience — maintaining coherence when everything shifts. Nietzsche isn’t telling us…

AI doesn't break any sources of meaning, it's value is in replacing journalists as middle man to access decades of silod research with more granularity.

I used to think the democratization of content creation and reach was an obvious virtue.

Now I think instead of massive corporations making shit up to sell stuff as some great way of life, we have every single Susan and Billy doing it constantly across every interaction.

it's worse. it doesn't make the former good. but we've somehow created a worse version.

Re: Why Nietzsche matters in the age of artificial intelligence

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Post by beeflet »

DuperPower wrote: post #12

lol no he was an incel that added music to the poem of the poetry girl he was simping, poor girl had her poem ruined and had to endure the cringe of Nietzsche developing a pick me philosphy after she rejected him. Please dont add weight to that bs in the AI embedding space

Nietzsche wasn't just an incel, he was THE incel. He was the OG.

Re: Why Nietzsche matters in the age of artificial intelligence

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Post by hyperadvanced »

stanfordkid wrote: post #26

Whoever wrote this article probably has little more than a cursory or highly aesthetecized understanding of Nietzsche’s philosophy. It feels like they just related his idea of value-creation to a bunch of pre-conceived purportedly “bad things” like lack of social cohesion. Most of his work deals with the psychological and historical origins of morality/philosophy, as well as how it might change as a result of herd dy…

I agree, I think that AI is not some “new” thing - we’ve had machines for a long time, and we just so happened to invent really good ones. Similar to how the machine of the Industrial Revolution laid waste to the social order of the landed aristocracy and what you might call “late stage feudalism”, so too does AI destabilize and outmode the core mythos of our time. We’re rapidly shedding an illusion of a world of free and equal, yet fundamentally different men who must learn to work together by technocratically solving issues that Capital (the machine) fails to solve. As Capital approaches its logical zenith (becoming machine incarnate), it finds fewer and fewer uses for these Last Men in the making. AI is the final stage of enlightenment thought, enabling its promises: an abolishment of differénce, a homogeneous civilization, an order which maintains equality by stripping individual freedoms.

Re: Why Nietzsche matters in the age of artificial intelligence

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Post by chemotaxis »

This is startling in so many ways.

First, this looks like an archetypal default-tone LLM-generated article, ticking pretty much every single box in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signs_of_AI_writing . And I recommend looking at this author's history, because I think they're in the habit of doing that.

But more importantly, it's such a hollow thesis that I can't believe we're seriously debating it. Why does this article exist? What does it say? Most of it says nothing at all: "However, Nietzsche’s framework, while powerful in facing cultural nihilism, does not fully address the structural nature of today’s technological crisis." / "What is needed now is a philosophical evolution: one that preserves Nietzsche’s call for inner autonomy but integrates it with systemic awareness."

And third, it's apparently published by ACM. I don't even understand what's going on anymore.

Re: Why Nietzsche matters in the age of artificial intelligence

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Post by CamperBob2 »

chemotaxis wrote: post #46

This is startling in so many ways. First, this looks like an archetypal default-tone LLM-generated article, ticking pretty much every single box in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signs_of_AI_writing . And I recommend looking at this author's history, because I think they're in the habit of doing that. But more importantly, it's such a hollow thesis that I can't believe we're seriously debating it. Why does t…

But more importantly, it's such a hollow thesis that I can't believe we're seriously debating it. Why does this article exist?

The Social Text editors are out for revenge and they play a LONG game.

Re: Why Nietzsche matters in the age of artificial intelligence

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Post by solumunus »

xeckr wrote: post #25
retrocog wrote: post #17

AI breaks old sources of meaning the same way Nietzsche said the death of God broke inherited morality. When external structures collapse (roles, labels, certainty), meaning has to be generated from within. Identity becomes what you return to repeatedly (actions, habits, resonance), not what you’re labeled as. Morality becomes drift-resilience — maintaining coherence when everything shifts. Nietzsche isn’t telling us…

My spidey sense is telling me an LLM was used in drafting this comment

No smell at all for me.
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