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Valdi – A cross-platform UI framework that delivers native performance

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Re: Valdi – A cross-platform UI framework that delivers native performance

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Post by yalok »

buffet_overflow wrote: post #13
mholm wrote: post #5

I’m not sure I trust snap of all companies to make a good cross platform framework after how terrible their android app has been.

I think it’s been changed since, but wow was it weird finding out that instead of taking photos, the Android app used to essentially take a screenshot of the camera view.

:) this is exactly how we used to do it even on iOS, back in the days before camera APIs were not made public, but Steve Jobs personally allowed such apps to be published in the iOS App Store (end of 2009) ...

Re: Valdi – A cross-platform UI framework that delivers native performance

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Post by serial_dev »

adastra22 wrote: post #34
DecoPerson wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did this and never looked back. It’s called a “WebView app” and you can get a really good experience on all platforms using them. Just: - don’t make any crazy decisions on your fundamental UI components, like breadcrumbs, select dropdowns, etc - add a few platform-specific specialisations to those same components, to make them feel a bit more familiar, such as button styling, or using a self-simplifying back-stack…

I have never once experienced a WebView app that I would say had “a really good experience.”

It’s because if a webview app experience is good, you don’t notice it, you only notice if it’s bad.

A while ago saw a blog link on HN that explained how Apple uses it everywhere and we never notice it because they are done well. Of course I can’t find that link now, I summon the HN gods…

Re: Valdi – A cross-platform UI framework that delivers native performance

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Post by smokel »

serial_dev wrote: post #42
adastra22 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have never once experienced a WebView app that I would say had “a really good experience.”

It’s because if a webview app experience is good, you don’t notice it, you only notice if it’s bad. A while ago saw a blog link on HN that explained how Apple uses it everywhere and we never notice it because they are done well. Of course I can’t find that link now, I summon the HN gods…

Is this what you mean? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45250759

(In the context of "Apple has a private CSS property to add Liquid Glass effects to web content")

Re: Valdi – A cross-platform UI framework that delivers native performance

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Post by serial_dev »

smokel wrote: post #43
serial_dev wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s because if a webview app experience is good, you don’t notice it, you only notice if it’s bad. A while ago saw a blog link on HN that explained how Apple uses it everywhere and we never notice it because they are done well. Of course I can’t find that link now, I summon the HN gods…

Is this what you mean? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45250759 (In the context of "Apple has a private CSS property to add Liquid Glass effects to web content")

Yes, thank you!

Re: Valdi – A cross-platform UI framework that delivers native performance

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Post by stuckinaloop »

joenot443 wrote: post #4

I was at Snap during this project’s early days (Screenshop!) and spent a bit of time debugging some stuff directly with Simon. He’s a wonderful engineer and I’m thrilled to see this project out in the open. Congratulations Snap team! Well deserved.

Same! I've worked with Simon on this and tried (and failed) to port it to web. Truly a smart guy - and congratulations to the rest of the team!

Re: Valdi – A cross-platform UI framework that delivers native performance

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Post by jmb99 »

serial_dev wrote: post #42
adastra22 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have never once experienced a WebView app that I would say had “a really good experience.”

It’s because if a webview app experience is good, you don’t notice it, you only notice if it’s bad. A while ago saw a blog link on HN that explained how Apple uses it everywhere and we never notice it because they are done well. Of course I can’t find that link now, I summon the HN gods…

> It’s because if a webview app experience is good, you don’t notice it, you only notice if it’s bad.

Aside from Apple’s apps (which imo are noticeably worse than the old ones, but that’s beside the point), what are some good WebView apps on iOS right now?

Re: Valdi – A cross-platform UI framework that delivers native performance

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Post by simjnd »

DecoPerson wrote: post #26
bearjaws wrote: post #23

Working at a company that uses react-native I wish nothing more than for the end of app stores and differing platform languages. We're heavily considering just having a website next year with a mobile app using webview, and then native code for the native notifications, GPS and healthkit / health connect. I feel like AI is changing the equation, its nearly better to write your business UI 3 times one for each platfor…

I did this and never looked back. It’s called a “WebView app” and you can get a really good experience on all platforms using them. Just: - don’t make any crazy decisions on your fundamental UI components, like breadcrumbs, select dropdowns, etc - add a few platform-specific specialisations to those same components, to make them feel a bit more familiar, such as button styling, or using a self-simplifying back-stack…

What is your app? Would love to try it out to get a feel for the experience.

Re: Valdi – A cross-platform UI framework that delivers native performance

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Post by xmprt »

joenot443 wrote: post #4

I was at Snap during this project’s early days (Screenshop!) and spent a bit of time debugging some stuff directly with Simon. He’s a wonderful engineer and I’m thrilled to see this project out in the open. Congratulations Snap team! Well deserved.

I'm surprised Snap of all companies invested in a cross-platform UI framework given how simple their app seems in comparison to more complex ones out there.

And more importantly, Snapchat seems like an app which could highly benefit from tight integration with native features (eg. camera, AR features, notifications, screenshot detection, etc.)

Re: Valdi – A cross-platform UI framework that delivers native performance

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Post by lenkite »

DecoPerson wrote: post #26
bearjaws wrote: post #23

Working at a company that uses react-native I wish nothing more than for the end of app stores and differing platform languages. We're heavily considering just having a website next year with a mobile app using webview, and then native code for the native notifications, GPS and healthkit / health connect. I feel like AI is changing the equation, its nearly better to write your business UI 3 times one for each platfor…

I did this and never looked back. It’s called a “WebView app” and you can get a really good experience on all platforms using them. Just: - don’t make any crazy decisions on your fundamental UI components, like breadcrumbs, select dropdowns, etc - add a few platform-specific specialisations to those same components, to make them feel a bit more familiar, such as button styling, or using a self-simplifying back-stack…

Do you use some framework for "WebView app" ? Like Tauri, etc ? Or is everything coded from scratch ?
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