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I analyzed the lineups at the most popular nightclubs

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Re: I analyzed the lineups at the most popular nightclubs

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Post by Razengan »

el_nahual wrote: post #36
Razengan wrote: post #23

As an introvert, what are you even supposed to do at "clubs"? Besides having your eardrums damaged

When it comes to electronic music, there are basically two types of clubs. One type is the mega club. These are see-and-be-seen places. Ibiza. Vegas. Miami. The DJs are very famous, but often because they have a few EDM "hits"--not because of their selection or mixing skills. These places have tables, bottle service, and beautiful people. The DJs here often do nothing: they may have a USB drive that they press "play"…

> Even if you find electronic music "boring", these people are absolute masters at taking you on an emotional journey. The best way to experience this is at one of the top festivals. The second best way is at a club. The third best way is at home

Hell I LOVE The Midnight, Com Truise, Essenger, Empire of the Sun, Robert Parker, Gunship, FM-84, Молчат Дома (Molchat Doma) and other Slavsynth groups I can't even pronounce the names of..

but the best way to jam out to that is to go on an actual journey ^^ a long drive, an open road, no stops.. Being stationary even if dancing just doesn't fit in with the images those sounds give me (picture those synthwave/outrun posters with purple suns and ringed planets in the background sky)

I really wish there were some modern games and movies made around that vibe.

Re: I analyzed the lineups at the most popular nightclubs

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Post by Der_Einzige »

Elof wrote: post #30
Der_Einzige wrote: post #24

Btw, SF night clubs actively refuse to let “tech nerds” in. I witnessed whole groups of people who attended the huggingface “Woodstock of AI” meetup circa 2023 and the local clubs would refuse to let anyone in who wore glasses or wore Patagonia. Thanks John Hughes films!

That doesn't make sense. Huggingface is a 'popular' tech company. Maybe those 'nerds' just didn't have tickets

I'm talking about an event that drew ~5000 people, not the staff of HF themselves.

The "tickets" that these nerds didn't have is more accurately known as "game" or "rizz" by zoomers.

Re: I analyzed the lineups at the most popular nightclubs

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Post by radley »

analog31 wrote: post #14
alexandregcode wrote: post #4

This is pretty cool, interesting to think about what causes more or less resident DJs. As a side note, on the RA events sometimes artists are listed in the description but not linked in the description so there could be some artists missing. In my experience it tends to vary on the nightclub.

Granted I'm not a DJ but a jazz musician. I think there's a slight premium for "out of town" acts compared to local acts of possibly equal quality. It could simply be due to scarcity. If a certain act is only in town for one night, then it's your only chance to see them, whereas you can put off seeing a local band for a while.

> I think there's a slight premium for "out of town" acts

In the EDM world, it can often be much more than a slight premium. Ever since streaming took over music sales, performance fees have become the key source of income for most artists.

Re: I analyzed the lineups at the most popular nightclubs

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Post by [deleted] »

Der_Einzige wrote: post #24

Btw, SF night clubs actively refuse to let “tech nerds” in. I witnessed whole groups of people who attended the huggingface “Woodstock of AI” meetup circa 2023 and the local clubs would refuse to let anyone in who wore glasses or wore Patagonia. Thanks John Hughes films!

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Re: I analyzed the lineups at the most popular nightclubs

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Post by exasperaited »

jillesvangurp wrote: post #31
Razengan wrote: post #23

As an introvert, what are you even supposed to do at "clubs"? Besides having your eardrums damaged

Talking to people is not actually possible at clubs because it's just too loud. So, it's oddly perfect for introverts in that sense. Nobody goes there to talk. It's why I never liked clubs I prefer small bars where you can talk to people. I've been in Berlin for 16 years now and there are plenty of those bars around. Even now that I no longer drink alcohol, I still enjoy going there. But I never saw the point of the…

> So, it's oddly perfect for introverts in that sense. Nobody goes there to talk.

For an introvert, the only place better than being in the crowd at a music venue is being on the stage. There are sooo many introverts in bands and especially DJs; some of the greatest musicians are introverts. Performing is a form of radical self-care, and introverts are actually really good at judging the vibe of a crowd.

Re: I analyzed the lineups at the most popular nightclubs

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Post by firefax »

Der_Einzige wrote: post #24

Btw, SF night clubs actively refuse to let “tech nerds” in. I witnessed whole groups of people who attended the huggingface “Woodstock of AI” meetup circa 2023 and the local clubs would refuse to let anyone in who wore glasses or wore Patagonia. Thanks John Hughes films!

>Btw, SF night clubs actively refuse to let “tech nerds” in.

I got escorted past the line at DNA lounge because I had a Firefox shirt on. (Only solid black shirt I had, outta respect to the goths rocked it with some black jeans.)

Are you aware that one of the best clubs in the bay is owned by a former "tech bro"?

>DNA Lounge is an all-ages nightclub, restaurant and cafe in the SoMa district of San Francisco owned by Jamie Zawinski, a former Netscape programmer and open-source software hacker.[3] The club features DJ dancing, live music, burlesque performances, and occasionally conferences, private parties, and film premieres.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_Lounge#History

In general, clubs don't want to let in folks who don't match the culture... for example, Berghain, at it's core, wants people coming in who want to dance, so if you show up in glasses and Patagonia you're not going to enjoy yourself.

Finally, be mindful of the energy you put out -- any group of people in business casual trying to get into the hottest nightclub in town might find their hopes dashed.

Frankly, based on your post I think maybe an air of entitlement and persecution might be your issue, not glasses or a sweater vest, because spoiler alert: if you don't mention your work, no one knows what you do for a living, and SF is probably wayyyy more welcoming to "uncool" people getting into clubs than someplace like NYC or LA, where if you're not a literal model or some kind of entertainment bigshot no clothing choice (or lack thereof) is getting you in.

Re: I analyzed the lineups at the most popular nightclubs

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Post by y-c-o-m-b »

Razengan wrote: post #23

As an introvert, what are you even supposed to do at "clubs"? Besides having your eardrums damaged

I'm also introverted and haven't been to clubs in over 10 years, so can't speak for today's crowd. Despite being an introvert, I pushed myself to socialize. Primary motivation was just being somewhere fun with friends or work colleagues where I can dance/listen to music I like, people watch, or the one thing most people don't readily admit to: meet potential partners for sex. What actually happened was a lot more of the first thing and A LOT less of the last thing though lol. You're around a bunch of drunk people, something funny is bound to happen and those hilarious moments really made it memorable.

Re: I analyzed the lineups at the most popular nightclubs

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Post by Honga »

siva7 wrote: post #7

Don't confuse this list with actually very popular djs. Many clubs in this list host mostly resident and local djs (like Berghain as the club name/culture is the main reason people go there, not the lineup) instead of popular touring djs who have a big fan base of their own (and are more expensive to book).

They also have something like a 2 month ban on playing elsewhere after you DJ for them. And it doesn't seem like the pay is great to compensate. The upside is exposure, because their lineups are phenomenal and consistent, You don't really have to go there for the music, it's guaranteed to be good.

https://www.scribd.com/document/639992014/Untitled#:~:text=R...

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