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Stepping Down as Framework Linux Community Ambassadors

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Re: Stepping Down as Framework Linux Community Ambassadors

#41

This comment sums up my own feelings towards this concisely : > This is not a “I do not like this distribution” kind of argument. > This is a “the people you are sending my money to want me and my friends dead or deported” kind of argument. from: https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-righ... Beyond the disappointment I have in framework for giving my money to someone so clearly off the rails, it's a…

> is just a bloated arch install with thrown together scripts, zoom, spotify, and google apps preinstalled.

Don't forget the pre-installed Basecamp and Hey!

Re: Stepping Down as Framework Linux Community Ambassadors

#43
post #7

It is OK to separate yourself from a group when you deeply disagree with their actions, no matter how insignificant it might seem to a different group of people. However, I am glad this happened. New Linux Ambassadors will step up and this issue will be buried into the alternative social media communities such as Mastodon, never to be heard of again. I disagree that Framework will lose a meaningful amount of business…

Apparently, the two resignees refused to talk to the CEO of Framework despite the CEO offering his time https://pan.rent/@jcape@hachyderm.io/115486043718543717

Too bad. I think the offer to talk is a respectful move. The CEO doesn't seem to be trying to fob them off, unlike Mozilla's recent translator mess.

Re: Stepping Down as Framework Linux Community Ambassadors

#44

1. Fascists should be fought everywhere and all the time so their ideas never get normalized. 2. Everything we do is political, tech is VERY political, stop daydreaming. A tolerant society cannot tolerate intolerance lest it gets destroyed by it.

Maybe so but please avoid mini-sermons like this on HN. We're here for curious conversation, not these kinds of grand pronouncements; it's likely far more effective to speak to one another normally, as peers rather than barraging people with rhertoric.

Please have a read of the guidelines and try to keep things conversational in future. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Stepping Down as Framework Linux Community Ambassadors

#45
post #35

1. Fascists should be fought everywhere and all the time so their ideas never get normalized. 2. Everything we do is political, tech is VERY political, stop daydreaming. A tolerant society cannot tolerate intolerance lest it gets destroyed by it.

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Please avoid commenting like this on HN. We're here for curious conversation, not ideological battle. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Stepping Down as Framework Linux Community Ambassadors

#46
post #31

I really hope Framework ignores these people. They are not Linux Ambassadors, they are political activists. These people only care about their ideology and anyone who doesn't blindly follow it gets defamed. I, and I would imagine many, are tired of this sort of binary thinking. You are either part of the problem or part of the solution. Society can't function like this.

What is their ideology? Being political activists? How? These are two people stepping down from community position because they don't agree with actions/direction of the project. There is nothing bizarre about that. They posted why they don't agree and that's it.

>What is their ideology?

Terminally online leftism.

Re: Stepping Down as Framework Linux Community Ambassadors

#47
post #22

I really hope Framework ignores these people. They are not Linux Ambassadors, they are political activists. These people only care about their ideology and anyone who doesn't blindly follow it gets defamed. I, and I would imagine many, are tired of this sort of binary thinking. You are either part of the problem or part of the solution. Society can't function like this.

Society can't function when people aren't allowed to make their own choices. Why can't they choose political activism? What on earth binds them to a corporate entity and over-rides their agency? If you want to step up and be an Ambassador, go for it! But if you think they should be compelled to do so, that's an ideological/political point of view of yours and you need to substantiate it.

>Society can't function when people aren't allowed to make their own choices.

>Why can't they choose political activism? What on earth binds them to a corporate entity and over-rides their agency?

For the same reasons you don't want Christians proselytizing at work, or using a company's platform to talk about their Lord and savior.

Re: Stepping Down as Framework Linux Community Ambassadors

#48
post #26

> blinded by the Western patriarchal narrative that technology in itself is not political I have no idea what this was supposed to mean.

Let me break it down for you: Western: of or pertaining to the part of the world where the dominant culture is European (most of it colonized) Patriarchal: of or pertaining to male-dominated society Narrative: a story we tell ourselves to impart meaning to the world Technology in itself is not political: the false (see "narrative" above) idea that technology is politically "neutral" and that the mere existence or use…

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Re: Stepping Down as Framework Linux Community Ambassadors

#49
post #26

> blinded by the Western patriarchal narrative that technology in itself is not political I have no idea what this was supposed to mean.

Let me break it down for you: Western: of or pertaining to the part of the world where the dominant culture is European (most of it colonized) Patriarchal: of or pertaining to male-dominated society Narrative: a story we tell ourselves to impart meaning to the world Technology in itself is not political: the false (see "narrative" above) idea that technology is politically "neutral" and that the mere existence or use…

Ironic considering it's a "Western patriarchal narrative" that everything is "political," and every space should be used as a platform to air the political grievances of the day.

Re: Stepping Down as Framework Linux Community Ambassadors

#50
post #8

> blinded by the Western patriarchal narrative that technology in itself is not political I have no idea what this was supposed to mean.

Is (a given) technology good or bad? Western culture says it's not, that technology is neutral. Others have conflicting opinions.

False. Western culture bans plenty of technologies. For example, guns and drugs.
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